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earle -- 09/20/2004, 17:04:27 -- #7302
Who Can I turn to - Bill Evans
This is an incredible web site. I love Bill Evans and I want to really start studying his beautiful tunes. Is it possible to find the chord sheet here? I have the best of... of verve. If I have the chords it will simplify my task by ear, in that I can focus on what he's playing. Thanks!

The World's Greatest Fake Book (hard to find songs by McCoy and others)
Scot -- 09/23/2004, 12:15:15 -- #7389
There are a LOT of good Bill Evans transcription and music books out there. I think you'll have to buy one.  Click on the "search books" link at the top right part of the screen and see what you can find.

keyboardist -- 09/27/2004, 02:30:56 -- #7471
G7 chord
first of all: greate site - the one and only
(please excuse my english - hope i'll manage to post this message)
i just started to learn how to play the piano. i began with the basics on this site until i crashed into the G7 chord. my problem is: i don`t understand why it's a G7 : especially the E confuses me. i would have played the chord that way: h d f a
don't understand where the E is coming from. please help me to understand - thanks

Whacky -- 09/27/2004, 07:58:08 -- #7478
in jazz we often extend 7th chords to 9ths, 11ths, 13ths...in this case the E is the 13th...

clobaton -- 09/28/2004, 08:55:31 -- #7520
evans who can i turn to
Earle, I found what you wanted: http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~adams/download.php?toGet=RB2

Scot -- 09/28/2004, 12:13:10 -- #7528
Keyboardist:  You didn't even read the whole lesson.  This is an often asked question and the answer is in the lesson.

"Now, those of you with some previous study in jazz or classical harmony will say, "But, those chords have extra  notes in them!""

The answer is- you're right, the E is not part of a classical G7. But who cares?  We're playing jazz and we use the 7th chord as a road map to play anything we want as long as it sounds good.

So most of hte time  we add the 13th to the chord, or the E in the G7- because it sounds good and is based off the 7th chord.

Maybeck Series: Denny Zeitlin (jaw dropping)
clobaton -- 09/29/2004, 16:30:36 -- #7567
hey scott!
I love your answer: the important thing is the sound. That is my discovery this week !! .

The World's Greatest Fake Book (hard to find songs by McCoy and others)
IgorP -- 09/30/2004, 05:08:21 -- #7590
Jazz lessons for beginners
I wish I could learn from you the system of the cords in jazz music, so that I could express myself using piano

albetan -- 09/30/2004, 06:04:57 -- #7591
Welcome Igor to LJP.
Go to Search engine (upwards) and write " beginning" selecting "files"
Read "Beginning scales and chords"
"Beginning modal scales"

mindful -- 10/08/2004, 10:31:07 -- #7874
Scot ... i need your help man.... or whoever else.
I've said before, that i havn't been playing long, so mostly what i've been doing is learning theory.  If my knowlege is correct, a minor chord is a major chord w/ a flattened 3.  

so in other words for example.  
DM (or D major) = should be D, F#, A      - right?
ok... then..
Dm7 (or Dminor Seventh) = should be D, F, A, C   - ok?

... i'm getting confused b/c on your "All Mighty 2-5-1" section says that Dm7 = E, F, A, C   - but WHERE DID THE "E" come from!? why has it changed from D to E?  -  its been killen me.

plz respond.

clobaton -- 10/08/2004, 16:15:41 -- #7882
Extra notes for mindful
Hi mindful. Do not worry about the formulas for the cords so much. the basics is major, minor, and from there you add the 7th, 9th, 11th,13th, or whatever you liked, flattened or sharped. What scott writes there is a dm7 (no root cause bass  plays it, you see f, a,c) and he adds the 9 (because it sounds NICE, but the catch is that when you are a beginner you just play the dm7.. do the exercise compare the sound, that is the real challenge beyond the "formulas" in the books. Also, I advise you to read ALL in the albetans forums, they are just great.. and download the files relates to chord theory, as they are very clear. go to albetan`s area, or techniques and exercises. Have fun!

Whacky -- 10/08/2004, 21:01:10 -- #7885
hey mindful, chords are built in thirds (1,3,5,7,9,11,13)

so Dm7 is as you say DFAC. (1,3,5,7)  

Jazz musicans often add some or all of the extensions: 9,11,13  (EGB)

When playing with a bass player, pianists will sometimes avoid playing the root (name) of the chord because the bass player will be playing it.  This is what we call a "rootless" voicing

So to answer your question about the D changing to E, it really didn't...it's just that it is a rootless minor 9 chord voicing...

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Scot -- 10/11/2004, 10:21:07 -- #7922
Like the other guys said :)

A true Dm7 is: D-F-A-C

However, in jazz we often play "rootless voicings". That is, chords without the root. in the Dm7 chord, the root is D.

So, since we, as jazz pianists, are going to drop the root.  But by doing that, we only have a three note chord, and another thing we, as jazz pianists like, is to play four note chords.

So I add the 9th, which is the E.  A Dm9 chord has different notes than a Dm7, but they basically sound the same.  So to keep things looking simple, we just put down Dm7 and leave it up to the piano player to determine how they want to play it.

In your case, you want to keep things simple for now. But as time goes on, you'll start expanding your ears and fingers and then when you see a Dm7, you have a whole bag of tricks to pull out to get the sound you want.

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Barry -- 10/12/2004, 01:40:09 -- #7950
Scot, this question seems to come up a hell of a lot from this lesson.  Do you think it would be worth putting some kind of explanation of the rootless voicing in the main body of the lesson as it seems to be causing problems for a lot of beginners....

harmony -- 10/12/2004, 07:26:44 -- #7956
How about G7 ?
Hello, Jazz pianist

I understand Dm7(F,A,C,E) but why do you choose B,E,F,A as G7 instead of B,D,F,A. Thank you.

7 -- 10/12/2004, 09:05:55 -- #7959
A Jazz G13 consists of:

G  B  D  F  A  E
1  3  5  b7 9  13

Due to the physics of a 5th being an even multiple of the fundamental frequency makes it a "take it or leave it" case.

The 5th does not add color (unless it's altered) and so it is commonly left out.

The 13th is a "colorful" tone and when juxtaposed against the b7 adds a charm that has now become a staple in voicing dominant chords.

Try the two voicings you describe above and you  will quickly see which has more personality.

mindful -- 10/12/2004, 09:20:15 -- #7960
Anything on here for learning...
Fast Scale runs?...    Just giving you a heads up, I already know my major scale in every key.  But are their any practice excersises here for learning fast (jazzy or blue) scale runs?

And with that, will it also have the correct fingering that i should use?  If that is here, that would be so awesome.

Scot -- 10/15/2004, 15:23:18 -- #8073
Barry, you're right.  Feel like coming up with something that I can add to that lesson to help clear things up?  A paragraph about rootless voicings?

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Barry -- 10/17/2004, 20:20:14 -- #8127
Yeah sure Scot, give me a couple of days and I'll see what I can do...

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poopelepay -- 11/01/2004, 14:14:19 -- #8523
Pentatonic help
I am self taught - played professionally for years without ever being able to play a scale. I have decided to learn real music now, and am wondering how to finger the pentatonics?  
Oh - ALSO: I'm good on the arpeggios (M7,7,m7,1/2dim,dim7)as long as it begins on WHITE KEYS!
Can I be clued into the fingerings for these arpeggios beginning with black keys?
Thank you for responding.

albetan -- 11/01/2004, 16:07:41 -- #8530
You may find a help in files:
Beginning pentatonics (Albetan's area)
Mastering pentatonics (Technique and exercises)
Beginning modes and arpeggios (Albetan's)
Mastering basic arpeggios (Technique)

poopelepay -- 11/01/2004, 21:54:11 -- #8538
Pentatonic help
Yes yes - And those things are great.  In fact, it is because of your stuff on arpeggios that I'm doing the white key stuff pretty well -And the modes are finding nice places when I attempt to improvise. However, in regard to fingering the arpeggios that begin on black keys, I don't understand what you're saying:

"FINGERING FOR ARPEGGIOS:
1 2 3 4_1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1_4 3 2 1
Use same fingering for all arpeggios.
In flat tonalities put fourth finger on wide section of whitekey,overcrossing thumb."

Can you give me an example - say AbMaj7 arpeggio -  Which finger do I begin with -
THank you for your patience and willingness to help the slower ones!
Thank you Alberto - You're a blessing.

albetan -- 11/02/2004, 07:29:41 -- #8545
Hi Poopelepay:
In traditional fingering for Abmaj7 you begin with finger 2 and put thumb in the next white key:

Ab  C  Eb  G  Ab  C  Eb  G  Ab
2   1  2   3  4   1  2   3  4

In practical fingering you do same fingering for all arpeggios:

Ab  C  Eb  G  Ab  C  Eb  G  Ab
1   2  3   4  1   2  3   4  5
           *__*
           Here you will find some difficult from G to Ab:  Then put
finger 4 in the wide part of the white key and over cross your thumb.

In traditional  fingering you must learn different fingerings for each arpeggio. In practical fingering you use the same way for all arpeggios.

poopelepay -- 11/02/2004, 15:31:36 -- #8561
arpeggios
One more question then I'll leave you alone-
Which do you use - traditional or practical?

Thank you Albetan-  You are my friend!

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albetan -- 11/02/2004, 19:17:27 -- #8572
I learned traditional at Conservatory of music, but i use practical fingering.

Thinking in Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation (changed how I look at jazz)
poopelepay -- 11/05/2004, 12:12:01 -- #8655
practical fingering
I've been trying "practical" for a couple of days and the I tried it with my toes - and it was much easier!

On the way down the arpeggio does the 4 finger cross over or under the thumb? Or should I just stick to trombone?

Please  help!

7 -- 11/05/2004, 15:01:24 -- #8656
The entire hand moves to the next position without crossing.

poopelepay -- 11/05/2004, 19:18:09 -- #8668
crossing
HA!!
THAT makes sense!  Otherwise, I play with my knuckles.
Thank you!

fremiot -- 11/06/2004, 02:49:03 -- #8674
discover
i'm a poor lonesome french beginner in piano blues
i've just discover your lessons and i'm sure it will boost me
Thanks  for your lessons

Thierry

gohtm -- 11/10/2004, 22:10:51 -- #8832
rootless voicing
re: scot, barry-rootless voicing

Hi, just a suggestion that the confusion with the lesson isn't just to do with the rootless voing (although that does add to the problem) but is actually due to the added 9th and 13th notes (for the Dominant 7th chord).

Pesonally, I had trouble understanding it because there wasnt a paragraph on to explain the added 13th note and the missing 5th note. And so naturally my mind went haywire trying to figure it out. It was only after reading all your answers to everyones' questionthat I was able to well... get the drift.

So maybe a section on the missing 5th note and the added 13th note just to explain the almighty 2-5-1 lesson might help instead?

Thanks heaps for this awesome site.

ps- I found there was sufficient explanation on rootless voicing

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Lorraine -- 11/11/2004, 04:48:37 -- #8838
Syncopation
I am a classical pianist having trouble with syncopation and looking for an easy way to break it down.

Thinking in Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation (changed how I look at jazz)
emdf -- 11/12/2004, 14:46:58 -- #8895
wonderful world
just wonderin if anyone has chords and d melody line for what a wonderful world for trumpet and piano wud be much appreciated!

Schism -- 11/13/2004, 18:46:13 -- #8908
Hi,

A question-

What exactly do you want us to do with these songs? Are you expecting us to figure them out by ear or something, or do you want us to look up the sheet music and practice them because they use the cords in this lesson?

Please help - Im a bit confused with this :)

jackson omo ojo -- 11/18/2004, 04:10:27 -- #9049
learn somethings to urs
well i will like to say that i dont really understand how the chords works.

albetan -- 11/18/2004, 06:32:43 -- #9052
Hi Jackson:
Please go to "Albetan's Area" and look for file "Beginning scales, chords, modes and arpeggios".

camoon -- 11/21/2004, 12:45:09 -- #9144
Don't fence me in...
Hi there.  I have been working on the basics for a week or so now, and was feeling quite good about them until i went to learn them in all the keys.  Then came frustration, almost to the point of tears!, at the idea this is all just too difficult after all.  A couple of years ago I would have thrown the towell in, but if its one thing learning to play the piano has taught me, it's keep pluggin' away!  So i perused throught the message threads here and discovered alot of others had had  the same experience.  I feel so much better now, as if having passed some sort of innitiation or rite of passage, lol, how many have fallen by the wayside?  I have started going through Albertons room and just love this site and all its contributors.  Many thanks!

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Barry -- 11/21/2004, 16:04:26 -- #9154
Hey camoon.

Welcome to LJP.  Everyone that visits this site has either gone through or is currently going through what you are now.  It can seem horrendously difficult at first but if you keep plugging away then, not only will you master these things, but new things will be easier to learn.  I have found that the better I get, the quicker I can pick up new things.  

If you master the basics on this page then you will be well underway on your journey to becoming a good player.  The payoff  after the hard work is being able to use your new skills in a jazz tune and hearing how good it sounds.

Stick with it and don't be afraid of asking if you have any questions as there are plenty of people here who are willing to help you.

Thinking in Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation (changed how I look at jazz)
adacho -- 11/24/2004, 06:27:45 -- #9203
Scales- playing it correctly
Hi, I'm from Poland. I've been playing piano for 4 years. I'm learning it by myself because I'm too old to go to school so sometimes i have problems with it :) Can  you give me some examples how to change fingers playing scales up and down?  I'm not sure that I do it in a correct way sometimes. Can you show me it? For example Cmajor, Cminor, Dmajor, Dminor for left and rigth hand. I think it's enaugh to understand the way to do it well in other keys. Please! I don't want too learn my mistakes!
Adam

albetan -- 11/24/2004, 07:04:28 -- #9204
See file "Beginning scales, chords, modes, arpeggios" at Albetan's Area.

adacho -- 11/24/2004, 07:43:29 -- #9206
hmmm
Thanks for quick answer. I found this area but I didn't found anything about it?? I dont know this site well... :(

adacho -- 11/24/2004, 07:47:00 -- #9207
ok. Sorry :P I have it, hehe, at leat. Thnks!

albetan -- 11/24/2004, 08:10:37 -- #9208
Hi Adacho:
Study also in Technique and exercises:
Mastering basic arpeggios and scales
Mastering modal scales.

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adacho -- 11/24/2004, 09:40:43 -- #9211
Ok. I found something what may be helpful not only for me ;)
http://www.music.indiana.edu/som/sec_piano/scales.html

Thinking in Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation (changed how I look at jazz)
adacho -- 11/27/2004, 03:07:50 -- #9258
Hehe. I'm still thinking about fingering :)
Cmaj is shown in this way.

  RH  1 231234  
  LH (1)432132    

Why? Can I play it RH 1231234
                    LH 4321321?
In my opinion it is more comfortable. Maybe Im not right... :/

clobaton -- 11/27/2004, 20:14:51 -- #9278
adacho : go subconcious
Dear adacho: I have been playing piano by ear for almost 14 years, but I never learned to read music because I was too concerned about learning my mistakes in fingering.. I thought there were rules for fingering. So,  Now after all this time I finally found a mentor, Alberto (albetan) and the first thing he taught me was not to worry about my fingering!!! I felt I had lost years because of worring too much.. Dont do the same!!! trust the subconcious, the confortability. I was taught that Bach was the first to challenge the clasic believes about fingering!! be Bach! look what he did, just so beautiful ain't it???
ps: I am also a little old for learning.. jejeje

adacho -- 11/28/2004, 03:02:31 -- #9281
Hehe, It's optimistic :) I have exactly the same problem. I have been playing for 4 years. I'm trying to learn reading music( it's not so hard as i thought :))and now I see my technique lacks... AGRHH! Horrible, hehe... Thanks! I'm more self confident now!

blancoc -- 11/29/2004, 15:06:40 -- #9334
Request for a copy of "All The Things You Are"
Hi! I am new here and would like to learn more on playing jazz.

Could you send me the chord sheet for "All The Things You Are"?

Thanks.

Whacky -- 11/29/2004, 19:20:02 -- #9342
click on "Lead Sheets" at the top of this page...you'll find a drop-down menu - it's in there

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lolligo -- 12/03/2004, 05:25:01 -- #9430
a bit of an odd question..
Hey, I recently discovered this site and a whole new world just seemed to open up to me...I have only just started playing the piano this past year...jazz has become my life. People have told me that I am talented and that I could go far with this, but only if I learn to play from my soul.....is there anything that I can do or does that feeling and connection with what you're playing only come with time as you familiarise yourself and identify with the music more?

Thinking in Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation (changed how I look at jazz)
Peteboypete -- 12/03/2004, 05:29:01 -- #9431
Try reading Kenny Werner's book Effortless Mastery.  He talks a lot about just letting the music flow from you and not analyzing it as you play.  It involves a deep awareness of yourself that he tries to help you find through a guided meditation CD that accompanies the book.

I think it is at least worth a try.

Peter

lolligo -- 12/03/2004, 06:31:23 -- #9432
Thank you, Peter. I will try and get my hands on that book as soon as possible.

Chris

anu adekoya -- 12/06/2004, 04:22:46 -- #9500
jazz lesson 2
something

jazzmanpiano08 -- 12/07/2004, 11:50:23 -- #9538
please i am dying for this
A copy of traces that has chord progressions will be greatly appreciated if sent to music.man08@gmail.com

jazzmanpiano08 -- 12/07/2004, 11:54:13 -- #9539
I HAVE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR EMDF
I have (know the chord prgression for a piano on what a wonderful world i love that song and i know it by heart!

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RSteveB -- 12/08/2004, 12:28:41 -- #9550
Learning Scales
An recommendations for learning scales?  Obviously it's important to know both major and minor scales, and the Circle of Fifths.  Several of the books of scales I have (including Classical Hanon and Jazz Hanon) contain pages of exercises, and a person could spend HOURS just on the C-scale.  Is this the best way to learn scales?  Or is it the ONLY way...???

Thinking in Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation (changed how I look at jazz)
Neighbor -- 12/29/2004, 01:12:32 -- #9956
To Scot and all the Jazz Organist hiding in this site ( From Neighbor)
Well Scot, I think there should be some special rooms and sites for all of us who are Jazz organist also.  I must know that there a lot of Jimmy Smith fans on this website and also B3 Hammond Gospel Organist-Keyboardist.  Please Scot or anybody  reply to this message!
                  Neighbor

7 -- 12/29/2004, 12:38:44 -- #9969
If you want to create a room:

Go to "Personal Rooms" section

click on the "create a room" link on the left margin of the screen.

Follow the instructions.

Neighbor -- 12/29/2004, 23:30:54 -- #9985
Thank Again 7 P
I appreciate all the help and I'm really learning a whole lot on these forums.  
Neighbor

cher57 -- 12/30/2004, 06:55:51 -- #9990
Learning a tune
..and where do I found these songs you mention above ?

rocky -- 01/03/2005, 13:02:32 -- #10087
guitar player ( wanna be jazz piano player)
Hello yall, im a guitar player wanting to learn jazz piano any advice  or help that i can get would be very nice , im just learning to read and i am doing fine just slow , can anyone offer some advice?

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albetan -- 01/03/2005, 16:12:43 -- #10091
Please go to search engine (upwards), write: "sight" selecting "files"
and you will find "How to play piano at sight".

Thinking in Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation (changed how I look at jazz)
mco246 -- 01/13/2005, 08:39:18 -- #10338
chord notes
Hi,

In a Cm10 chord, is the 10th position (which is really a 3rd in the next octave), played based on the major scale, or natural minor scale? And does the chord quality (major or minor) determine it?  

So for example:1   3   5  7   9  10
C   Eb  G  Bb  D  Eb

and a CM10 for example,

1  3  5 7  9  10
C  E  G B  D   E


And what about a Cm13 for example?

Would the 13th note be a “Ab” (based on the natural minor) or an “A” based on the major scale?

I would appreciate any feedback,

Thanks a lot!

Mike.

albetan -- 01/13/2005, 10:26:46 -- #10342
Hi Mike:
You are right in your explanation about chords with 10th.
You may find chords with major 3 and minor 10 like: C7#9
C7#9 = C E G Bb D# = C E G Bb Eb
This is a very used chord in jazz, and a practical tip is to play :
3 b7 b3 and bass performs 1.

For your second question about 13th note, please see file "Extended chords" at Albetan's Area.

mco246 -- 01/13/2005, 12:02:31 -- #10352
Thank you for your response!
Albetan,

Thanks for the tip

bestremera -- 01/23/2005, 18:22:33 -- #10649
Blues scale fingering
Blues scale fingering:
You must get this one alot.
I'm working with some remote instruction materials. I'm practicing the finger for the blues scale from one source and notice it is different from the fingering of another. Predictably, the differences involve the occurance of 'crossing' over with the thumbs.
Any guidance you can offer?  I'm afraid of learning bad habits without an actual teacher.
Thanks, Bob

7 -- 01/25/2005, 01:55:12 -- #10680
I use mostly 3-finger positions and twiddle around in one for awhile then hop to another and twiddle in it for awhile up and down the keyboard.

The following fingerings are valid for all twelve keys
(notes in parens are crushes)

Minors

1st position (4 fingers)

1 b3 4 (#4/b5)  5
t  i m  m or r  r

4th position (3 fingers)

4 (#4/b5) 5 b7
t    i    i  r

5th position (3 fingers)

5 b7 1
t  i m

b7th position (3 fingers)

b7 (nat7) 1 b3
t     i   i  r


Majors

1st position (3 fingers)

1 2 (#2/b3) 3
t i    m    m

2nd position (3 fingers)

2 (#2/b3) 3 5
t    i    i r

5th position (3 fingers)

5 (#5/b6) 6 1
t    i    i r

That's all there is to it!

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Scot -- 02/01/2005, 02:18:44 -- #10868
It never ceases to amaze me how much effort the visitors of this site put into helping people out who are new here. You guys all rock!

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clobaton -- 02/01/2005, 13:11:39 -- #10886
Rememder Matrix??
Hey Scot,  remember Matrix the movie??? you are "The architect" and LJP is the Matrix!

michaelnostra -- 02/03/2005, 13:25:04 -- #10950
many thanks
thanks am short of words.God bless you.my e-mail add is michaeldenostra@37.com,please get me posted.I'm working towards being the best jazz pianist in my state I know with you it is possible.you know what?its so funny that i just stumbled into this site just when i needed it,never knew there was anything like this.I pray you can finanacial partners ,hope to be one some day.thanks

luthierone -- 02/18/2005, 20:26:29 -- #11325
Help with chords
Hello,
I am a beginner, and I have a question about a chord that I see in my lead sheet.  How would you play a "F/A"?  And is there a formula for figuring these types of chords?  Thank you for putting up with my stupidity.

Whacky -- 02/19/2005, 00:28:59 -- #11331
It's kinda backwards but it means to play an "F" chord and the bass note "A".  So if you're playing solo piano, your lowest note should be "A".  If you're playing with a bass player, he/she will play "A" while you play the F chord...

luthierone -- 02/21/2005, 14:18:54 -- #11410
thanks much
Dr. Whack,
Thanks so much.  I think its awesome that musicians like the contributors of this site take time to answer our(beginner's) questions.

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Whacky -- 02/21/2005, 23:51:36 -- #11437
You're very welcome!  It's nice to know that some of the things I've learned over the years mean something to somebody:)

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mostarda -- 02/28/2005, 10:48:41 -- #11634
need the tunes !
humm... I need the tunes...  any of them ... thanks !

fusion -- 03/07/2005, 17:50:19 -- #11738
Just have fun
When ever you play just feel free to play around with the keys and just have fun with the piano.Keep it simple!

Bluestar -- 03/13/2005, 17:32:45 -- #11901
2-5-1 chord progressions in all keys.
i learnt to play the 2-5-1 chord progressions from the sample of the chords on sheet music, in keys: C, F, D, Bb, and i'm suppose to learn the chord progressions in all the keys. Even though their seems to be a definite pattern of finger positions and changes in the keys that i learnt, i can't figure out how to play them in any other keys even though i'm using the same pattern. How Come??
it might make it much easier for me if i was provided with a complete chart of the 2-5-1 chord progressions in all the keys in normal sheet music form. Where could i download it for free?

albetan -- 03/13/2005, 21:28:42 -- #11904
Hi Bluestar:
Please go to search engine (upwards, and write "mastering A & B", selecting "files".

mrborisguy -- 03/15/2005, 15:32:29 -- #11960
chord name reference?
is there a good reference where i can find what all of the chord symbols mean?
i'm looking at "Green Dolphin Street", which i got from here, and i'm seeing stuff like:

Cmaj7, C-7, C7, D7/C, etc...

now, I know some of them, like  Xmaj7 means 1, 3, 5, 7, and X7 means 1, 3, 5, flat 7, and X/Y means X with a Y root, but what about X-7?  or X triangle (which looks to me like... Xmaj9?).  i guess i'm asking, where can i find a reference to what all of the chord symbols mean?  thanks!

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albetan -- 03/15/2005, 17:38:16 -- #11964
mrborisguy:
Please go to search engine (upwards) and write
"Beginning scales, chords",
selecting "files".

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mrborisguy -- 03/15/2005, 18:17:08 -- #11966
albetan:
another good reference, thanks.
but i'm wondering... where can i find out what - means in C- and C-7.  i know how to build chords, but if i don't know what the chord is supposed to be, i can't build it.
[example, i can't build a C- chord because i don't know what it is, so where can i go to find out that a C- Chord = { root, 3rd, 5th, 7th, flat 9th } or whatever it is, but i can easily build a Cmaj7 because i know what "maj7" is indicating, that i need a major triad and a major 7]

i guess it would suffice right now to just fill me in on what a C- chord is (from "Green Dolphin Street"), but if i ever run across other chord symbols that i'm not familiar with, i'd also like to know what those chord symbols mean.

does that make sense?

albetan -- 03/15/2005, 21:17:21 -- #11968
Good question; mrborisguy.
That symbol – appears in illegal Real book meaning MINOR.
 C-   =  Cm  
 C-7  =  Cm7

Whacky -- 03/16/2005, 00:19:22 -- #11971
...which can be easily confused with chords like C7-9, which is another way to indicate C7b9 - oy...who thought of this stuff? :)

brent1 -- 03/16/2005, 06:40:34 -- #11974
fingering
in doing a scale, middle c to high c or anywhere else, if you start with the thumb and play five notes c,d,e,f,g, with which finger does the next key be played (a) etc.  same with the base when you start with the little finger?  trailors varnerbrent2001@yahoo.com or post a message for me.  thanks

Whacky -- 03/16/2005, 11:46:34 -- #11980
Check around this site for a list of major scales and fingerings  (I think they are in "Ryan's Room")

To answer your question...for a C major scale the RH hand should play:
12312345

If you are going to play more than one octave you substitute the 1 for the 5 and continue playing the scale as before:
1231234,1231234, etc..

Left Hand is the opposite:
54321321,4321321,etc...

Try to remember which note the 4th finger plays in each scale and you should have  no problem learning the fingerings.  For example, in C major RH4 plays B, LH4 plays D

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gil_blas -- 03/16/2005, 20:52:56 -- #11994
chord sheet
hello-

this is a very cool site, where can i ge the chord sheets for green dolphin street?

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albetan -- 03/16/2005, 21:34:51 -- #11995
gil_blas:
Click on "Lead sheets" (upwards) and select your tune.

strk -- 03/18/2005, 17:11:06 -- #12047
help: over the rainbow
I'm trying playing "Over The Rainbow"
I might have a different version (dunno who sings, sorry),
but it seems chords don't match. Maybe I'm just missing the
meaning of the 1.______ and 2.____ lines: where do they start ?(I'm new - thank you Scott for your great job!)

Whacky -- 03/19/2005, 00:35:47 -- #12051
Often times arrangers will use different chords from those indicated in sheet music and such.  Other than that, I'm not sure what you are asking.  (like 1.______ and 2.____ lines:)??

strk -- 03/19/2005, 03:54:33 -- #12053
following  Lead Sheets and selecting "Over the Rainmbow" you see the
1.________ and 2.__________ lines.
As far as I know they mean that when repeating you
first play the 1.____ part and then the 2.____ one.
But in this case I'm not sure where their start belong
(1. and 2. are not aligned and I can't understand if they
belong to the chords above of below them)

Whacky -- 03/19/2005, 10:50:21 -- #12055
I see...yeah that does look weird!  I would  ignore the second ending as it is a repeat of the first ending.  Just play to the repeat dots twice then on to the bridge which is the Eb right after the written 2.________

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strk -- 03/20/2005, 02:03:55 -- #12067
Yeah, I came to same conclusion. Thanks !
Another thing... what does the / / mean in
Gm 7  / /  Eb7 ?
And what's the || line before last (same of first) section ?
(it's line 5 before Eb).

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7 -- 03/20/2005, 02:20:15 -- #12069
I you're reading Nashville style lead sheets, the double slash means that there are two beats of Gm7 in that measure.

Example 1:

| Gm7 // Eb7 // |

This indicates that there are two beats of Gm7 in that measure (beats 1 & 2 in 4/4) followed by two beats of Eb7 (beats 3 & 4).

Example 2:

| Gm7 /// Eb7 / |

This indicates that there are three beats of Gm7 in that measure (beats 1 & 2 & 3 in 4/4) followed by one beats of Eb7 (beat 4).

strk -- 03/20/2005, 03:19:01 -- #12070
Isn't // normal then ? I mean Isn't first Eb Cm7 two beats each ?
If so, why the explicit sign on Gm7 // Eb7 ? (I'm assuming the // after
Eb7 is implicit)

Whacky -- 03/20/2005, 10:24:47 -- #12072
Often times a double bar is used to mark the end of a section.

And yes, there probably is no need for the //.  Some guys write em and some don't.  Like you said, common sense would tell you that they are two beats a piece.  They are helpful though in cases where perhaps the second chord should be played on beat four instead of three.  And of course, some charts are more detailed and would indicate complicated rhythms by  using standard rhythmic notation.

edmilson -- 03/20/2005, 16:15:51 -- #12080
chord sheet
Hi!
I´d like to get a chord sheet, it´s possible?

edmilson

7 -- 03/20/2005, 16:17:14 -- #12081
Could you post the chart here, so that we could see it in context?

It's often very difficult to ascertain the true meaning without all the pieces in place.

Also don't forget to check the "force message formatting" box so that the chart all lines up.

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strk -- 03/20/2005, 16:36:57 -- #12082
OVER THE RAINBOW

Key of Eb    4/4    

 
                
[:  Eb  Cm7  |  Gm7 / / Eb7 |  Ab        |  Eb         |
      1._________________________
|   Ab  Abm  |  Eb    Cm7   |  F7   Bb7  |  Eb        :]   
2.__________________________
|   F7  Bb7  |  Eb          |  Eb        |  Fm7   Bb7  |
 
|   Eb       |  Fm7    Bb7  |  Eb        |  Gbdim      |
  
|   F7       |  Fm7   Bb7  ||  Eb   Cm7  | Gm7 / / Eb7 |              

|   Ab       |  Eb          |  Ab  Abm    |  Eb    C7   |
 
|   F7  Bb7  |  Eb          |

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7 -- 03/22/2005, 01:44:30 -- #12118
In this case, | Gm7 // Eb | means

3 beats of Gm7 followed by 1 beat of Eb.

The Gm7 symbol represents the first beat of the chord (beat One), and the two slashes afterward mean Gm7 continued through beats 2 & 3.

This type of shorthand occurs from time to time, but I prefer the system that I described earlier in this thread.

For verification, please click on the following link:

http://guitar-primer.com/Charts/Chart-470.html

Stewart -- 03/27/2005, 23:28:24 -- #12250
Back on the keys
Hey there getting back on the keys after about a 10 year lull, studied only classical music for about 8 years, but am now wanting to play some jazz/soul music.  Forming a band with drums double bass, dj with decks and myself on keys.  Jimmy smith style!! anyone got some good suggestions for where to start learning jazz.  this is a huge site, thought someone out there may have some suggestions.

Cheers

supernick -- 03/28/2005, 23:48:21 -- #12275
gee!
the best and easiest tutorial i've ever seen!

faurelive -- 03/30/2005, 01:48:08 -- #12311
faurelive
great site, well done i found it very informative thanks.

eben -- 04/08/2005, 14:05:42 -- #12606
hola Scot
i love your attitude and everything about your work. bravo, gracias!

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eben -- 04/08/2005, 14:25:16 -- #12609
heeelp!!!
please may i get access to a chord sheet?

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Scot -- 04/08/2005, 20:08:45 -- #12628
Thanks for the kind words!  If you need a chart, you can get chord sheets from the "lead sheets" link above.  There are also other sites that provide them. I can't provide them here because of legal reasons, but that may change one of  these days...

michelebee -- 04/12/2005, 17:42:20 -- #12758
classically trained HELP
hullo.  i really really want to learn jazz.  i've been playing classical piano for so many years, chopin, bach, beethoven, mozart, etc.. but i don't know where to start.  i really don't know where to start.  it is so confusing for me.  i feel like i am retarded in this aspect of music.  it's funny.  where should i start?  i can read chord charts, but i can't make the music come alive, my hands don't know what to do.

thank you so much

mapleleafD91 -- 04/12/2005, 18:52:10 -- #12763
downloading songs
One great resource I depend on when learning a song is LimeWire. LimeWire allows you to download almost any song in almost any arrangment. This program is available at www.limewire.com and costs $40. There are no "per song" download fees; everything is free after the $40. This is a great investment.

Scot -- 04/12/2005, 19:04:31 -- #12766
Classical is more like reading the script for a play, while jazz is like comedy improvisation, so they are very much two different things.

From a classical standpoint, a good thing to do is get a book or two of jazz arrangements for the piano. These books, such as the ones by Monty Alexander, along with listening to lots of jazz (you listen to a lot of jazz, right?) will give you the sounds that you are shooting for.

Do you know theory?  Theory is important as it lets you analyze scientifically what's going on in the music and lets you reproduce certain sounds simply from knowing the forumla to get them.

Also, memorize the chord charts for the tunes you are working on.  Don't look at the music any more, and if possible, learn it from recordings.

It's a very steep, but very short learning curve going from classical to jazz PROVIDING you have a very good handle on theory.

Also, the Mark Levine "Jazz Piano" book is great for classical players going into jazz.

albetan -- 04/12/2005, 19:21:38 -- #12769
Hi Michelebee:
Welcome to LJP. This is a great school of Jazz.
See file "Solo Piano: Performance of Jazz lead sheets" at Albetan's Area.

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michelebee -- 04/13/2005, 12:15:31 -- #12792
left hand
oh man my left hand does not know what to do.  Does the root of the chord always have to be in the left hand?  what about octaves?  or maybe the root and the 7th?  
oh man oh man oh man
thank you for helping me
you are so nice

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michelebee -- 04/13/2005, 12:16:59 -- #12793
comping
hello i have a question.  
what do they mean when they say comp freely on the score?  what does that mean?  what do you do?  
thank you so much for your help
i really appreciate this site

dustywaynn -- 05/11/2005, 16:49:10 -- #13728
All the things you are, Autumn leaves
can i have the chord sheet for these pieces

Whacky -- 05/11/2005, 18:37:50 -- #13732
Click on "Lead Sheets" at the top of this page

mr.music -- 05/12/2005, 18:54:39 -- #13770
i need help
i'm looking for someone who can help me i'm an organist and i play by ear and i'm looking for someone who would share chord progressions with me please!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whacky -- 05/13/2005, 01:39:37 -- #13775
C Am F G7

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albetan -- 05/20/2005, 14:50:50 -- #14005
Please see "Chord Progressions" at Albetan's Area.

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bb -- 06/01/2005, 15:59:40 -- #14394
Help
Can anyone explain what 2 5 1 means. It's not clear to me
Thanks
BB

Whacky -- 06/01/2005, 16:24:46 -- #14395
Those are the chords built on the 2nd, 5th and 1st notes of the scale - for example in C major the 2 (ii) is Dm the 5(V)is G major and the 1(I)is C major

notice we use Roman numerals for these -(ii, V, I) Caps  for major, lower case for minor

Scot -- 06/01/2005, 23:56:43 -- #14415
To expand on that, in classical theory the most commonly used chord progression is the V7 (dominant fifth) to the I.

In jazz we like to, uh, "jazz things up" as it were and one of the ways to do that is by reharmonization.
The most simple of all reharmonizations if adding the relative 5th of the V chord so that you kind of have a V to a V to a I, or in the key of C, we have a Dm7 to G7 (which is a five to one, although Dm7 is a minor 7th instead of a  dominant 7th), and then the G7 moves to the C. That's what the circle of fifths is all about and is mentioned in one of the other lessons.

albetan -- 06/02/2005, 10:29:40 -- #14430
2 5 1
Look for file "Chord progressions" in search engine (upwards).

vanriker -- 06/03/2005, 23:34:43 -- #14513
Scale fingerings
So I know all the standard scale fingerings for natural major scales, but that's about it, and charts explaining standard scale fingerings for anything other than natural scales are hard to come by.  Well charts in general, a friend explained them natural fingerings to me.  I'm a pretty basic beginner on piano.  I've been playing guitar for about 7 years and understand all the theory, but the physical part is the challenge.  I only know like a dozen Beatles songs and one John Cale song, and it's pretty much all chords, no hand independence.  If anyone could direct me to some good exercises for hand independence, that'd be great too.

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Scot -- 06/04/2005, 09:36:07 -- #14536
Look at some classical music. Get some Bach inventions and learn them- your hand independance will develop rather quickly if you practice that music.

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Lunga -- 06/07/2005, 04:37:56 -- #14708
Lunga
this is all but too amazing for me. (in a good way!!)
the thing is, that i learnt classical piano way back in the day (about 5 years ago) and i sort of forgot how to read the music.

I went up to passing grade 6 and i can play all the movements in Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonanta". I just forgot how to read!! The piece is just stuck in some chamber in my brain and i could probably play it with my eyes closed but i still cant read. I can't explain it!

As bad as it sounds, it's not. It will take a whole lot more to discourage my endevour to learn the art of this music, most importantly the piano.

I just printed your lessons and i going to put them into practise (dunno if i spelled that right).

My goal is to be a be-bop maestro... think its a long shot?

Watch me!!!

Lunga Xhamela
Pretoria, South Africa

Scot -- 06/07/2005, 12:49:57 -- #14723
It's never a long shot to become a great musician.  Practice your instrument, listen all the time to the music you want to play, and you will be on the way to becomming a great musician.

SolArt -- 06/11/2005, 08:49:06 -- #14919
Rich sounding TIP for Dm7 to G7
Where the Dm7 (Actually a Dm9) is played F A C E (Did your mirror explode today?) you can simply raise or lower the A and C(simultaneously, both that is) by a half-step in ANY COMBINATION, to yield a cool dominant alteration of a G7. (Although the one with both a B and a Bb is the loser!)

7 -- 06/11/2005, 13:15:55 -- #14931
Actually the B Bb/A# combination is known as a 7#9.

It is an extremely common chord especially in Funk.

The voicing F A# B D# is a common form of G7alt (rootless form of its tritone substitute Db679 [F Bb Cb Eb]).

In context it  works like gangbusters.

SolArt -- 06/16/2005, 09:57:31 -- #15190
It usually doesn't sound so cool on a 7+9 when the 3rd & +9th are only half steps apart, now ain't that so? I really like the following voicing of a +5+9 chord: (from bottom) 3 +5 7 1 +9. Also it's very easy to remember: just play your common 3 7 +9 voicing & to the 7 add a whole step in both directions. Got it? I like your web site & can see by your own useful "hieroglyhics" you are indeed very creative & unique! Maybe I'll learn them someday...
Here's a cool LITTLE way to voice a 9th chord: simply add a whole step to the root in both directions. EASY & sounds effective, nes'par?

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SolArt -- 06/16/2005, 10:18:44 -- #15191
The commom 13th voicing
Gee, that reminds me, especially for all you new to jazz, a very simple way to remember the popular 13 voicing of 7 3 13(6) is:
Just play your major chord in root position (or mentally) and expand the root & 5th a whole step, play. VOILA! Now if that was in the L.H. as is often the case in jazz just add in a higher range the major chord in root position with it's octave on top (1 3 5 1). Play both hands synched together in a jazzy rhythm, now chu doin' i' mah!

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Scot -- 06/17/2005, 12:56:52 -- #15237
That is a really great tip!

Do you approach chord building in a more intervalic way?  A guy named Jerome Gray who used to teach jazz used intervals to explain everything on the piano.

SolArt -- 06/17/2005, 14:41:20 -- #15239
Which tip did you like?! Danke, it is so nice to be appreciated & to be able to talk with others (like those who abound here) who truly understand music theory. I don't understand why many shy away from it. I'm so glad I found your great site! Anyway I base especially more complex voicings (& you know how different they look & feel on the keys, so I kind of envy guitar players where they can just slide it where they want it, but he-he they CAN'T slip off the black notes!) on chords & intervals I already know very well, i.e. "oh it's a stack of fourths with the middle note altered," so that way you have to think less. I haven't heard of Jerome Gray, unfortunately. I`ve gathered throughout the years, stuff I wrote down on realizations & insights about chords, etc that live in my piano bench, & that's why I'm writing a book BEFORE I turn into a little old wrinkled man with regrets about what I should've done. Also I have this thing about W-I-D-E chord voicings, I simply find them very nice & full sounding.

Scot -- 06/17/2005, 16:58:12 -- #15245
Yeah, I like that idea about consciously basing things on simple chords. We all do that on some level, I think, but making a point of it would definitely be a great way to quickly learn new chord voicings in all keys and things like that.

eyessound -- 06/29/2005, 19:57:11 -- #15881
correct fingering on keybord
I am a guiterest trying to lern piano. And improve my jazz playing.    Is fingering very important for scales and chords?  ED

Whacky -- 06/29/2005, 20:44:51 -- #15886
yes

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Scot -- 06/29/2005, 21:11:22 -- #15890
Expound please :)

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barleng -- 07/04/2005, 07:08:37 -- #16113
hip chords
I have just started (couple of years) to play keyboards and I have been using Fake books as you call them.  However I have been a jazz fan for many years, and I would like to see some of the HIP chords you refer to.  I can work out chords from their discription but am often at a loss to know which chords to use instead of the Fakes I currently use, so any help would be appreciated.

albetan -- 07/05/2005, 07:19:05 -- #16147
See files:
Extended Chords
A & B Forms
Performing jazz lead sheets
at Albetan's Area.

jaymusiq -- 07/08/2005, 13:29:56 -- #16297
Lesson 1
The basics

jaymusiq -- 07/08/2005, 13:44:48 -- #16298
Lesson 1
The basics

bdtrainee -- 07/10/2005, 14:52:40 -- #16355
Technique and Scales
I was wondering if someone could give me a chart with all the scales that I need to know i know all my major and minor scales but i would like to learn all the other that I will need to know for plaing jazz piano

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albetan -- 07/10/2005, 19:02:48 -- #16362

Hi bdtrainee:
In "Technique and exercises" you will find good stuff.

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musiciansam4 -- 07/11/2005, 17:48:01 -- #16401
7?
What is all this stuff about 7? I get c major/ c minor etc. but when we get to Cmajor 7 or C7 im totally confused...could someone PLEASE help me! thanks

Whacky -- 07/11/2005, 17:57:37 -- #16402
C Major 7 is the I chord in the key of C (CEGB)

C7 is the V chord (dominant) in the key of F (CEGBb)

albetan -- 07/11/2005, 18:08:32 -- #16403
Hi musiciansam:
See file "Beginning scales, chords, modes, arpeggios" at Albetan's Area.

SolArt -- 07/12/2005, 04:03:12 -- #16416
Don't think, just add a major 3rd to your major chord in root position for a maj7, or a minor third to your major or minor chord in root position for a 7.

{From root postion} Alternatively, just drop the root 1/2 step to result in a maj7, or  drop it a whole step for a 7 (can leave root in).

See it? Now learn the other two inversions.

realsmile -- 07/31/2005, 05:59:04 -- #17100
can you send me the following
cords sheet

Maybeck Series: Jessica Williams
Whacky -- 07/31/2005, 10:55:38 -- #17103
At the bottom of this page, click on "lead sheets"

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Jazzboy21 -- 08/06/2005, 11:07:26 -- #17349
Exercise
Hello,

A few days ago I red this jazz-site, I practise a lot on the piano. But I wonder if somebody has some chords/songs so I can practise more.

cjconnor24 -- 08/09/2005, 18:22:56 -- #17446
some help required
(sory if im posting on the wrong bit, im quite new to this!)

my name is chris connor, im a young piano player from scotland. I love jazz piano its amazing, but the thing is....i dont really know much about it if you know what i mean,  i just what i'm playing rather than thinking about what chords or techniques im using, i was just wondering if u guys could help me out. How do i know what chords im hitting and how do i work out how to play a chord. For example, C13 i know its  C Bb D E A. but i got that from a book, any chance someone could give a brief insight, Its got me stumped!!

Thanks
CHris

7 -- 08/09/2005, 19:21:36 -- #17451
C13 is a dominant quality chord. As such it's built off the fifth degree of the F scale.

If we start the F scale at C and count the degrees of the scale from that point we have:

C  D  E  F  G  A  Bb C  D  E  F  G  A
1  2  3  4  5  6   b7 8  9  10 11 12 13

In tertain harmony the chords are built using every other note:

1  3  5  b7 9  11 13
C  E  G  Bb D  F  A

That's the definition of a C13 chord.

Usually the 11th is left out, so a typical C13 chord is:

1  3  5   b7 9  13
C  E  G  Bb D  A

thefiddlefarm -- 08/14/2005, 18:45:24 -- #17601
Chord Progressions
Where can I find chord progression sheets to print?

thefiddlefarm -- 08/14/2005, 18:46:49 -- #17602
Lead Sheets
It says at the top of your scene "If you need chord sheets, click on the Lead Sheets link near the top of the page."
I must be blind I can't see them?

Maybeck Series: Jessica Williams
7 -- 08/14/2005, 19:34:36 -- #17603
Actually the link is at the bottom of every page.

lead sheets
http://www.learnjazzpiano.com/citadel/scotcit.mvc?screen=vrb

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BlueMooN -- 09/02/2005, 23:59:15 -- #18468
Just wanna learn some Blues
Greetings! This is my first time here, and I'm looking forward to learning some blues scales and blues licks!  I know my major scales,and how 7th's augmented and diminished chords work, but I still need alot of practice. I've been listening to alot of BB King and Eric Claypton lately.  Nice to meet you, and we'll see you soon.
BlueMooN

luciernaga -- 09/04/2005, 00:03:28 -- #18502
I love this page!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ngatiah -- 09/05/2005, 09:44:47 -- #18558
good work keep it up

cakinbro -- 09/09/2005, 13:43:32 -- #18814
beginning jazz piano...
I have been playing gospel piano for 12 years. I want to learn jazz piano. Where do I start?

7 -- 09/09/2005, 14:50:26 -- #18817
Right here with "The Basics".

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lobotomia -- 09/12/2005, 05:17:10 -- #18917
Piano and voice
Hi. I have been playing blues guitar for a few years now, however my main profile is singing. I would like to accompany myself on the piano. Emphasis would be laid on vocals. Is there any special resource for these needs?
Thanks

In The Course of Performance: Studies in the World of Musical Improvisation
louisa -- 09/19/2005, 02:20:18 -- #19205
need sheet music
does anyone have the sheet music to autumn leaves. what are hip chords as oppose to the common fake book chords?

beyrut -- 09/23/2005, 19:15:54 -- #19306
question
In the example for the 2-5-1, the progression is shown dm7 G7 and Cmaj7, but the progression I see has Dm9 G13 Cmaj9, correct me if I am wrong because I am trying so hard to learn....am I supposed to 2-5-1 always with a 9th - 13th 9th, or what....also I was wondering if anybody would like to share any cool jazz runs and riffs with me

beyrut -- 09/23/2005, 19:16:44 -- #19307
question
In the example for the 2-5-1, the progression is shown dm7 G7 and Cmaj7, but the progression I see has Dm9 G13 Cmaj9, correct me if I am wrong because I am trying so hard to learn....am I supposed to play 2-5-1 always with a 9th - 13th 9th, or what....also I was wondering if anybody would like to share any cool jazz runs and riffs with me

Scot -- 09/25/2005, 12:56:07 -- #19336
Hi Beyrut- read the whole lesson!  It says right there that the reason there are those extra notes in it is because they sound good.

aurelio -- 10/21/2005, 14:05:28 -- #20125
Yes! Here it is
Hi all:

It is amazing what I found here. I typed "jazz piano" in the web search engine, just for curiosity, and what I got... a complete community of people talking about it, eager to play (or learn to play like my case) jazz.

Yes, classical western scales heared for years, are hard to leave. Yes, hard to find local jazz instructors. And now, a source of new ideas and sounds, dam!!!

Well, I'm gonna try to find the way to contribute to this posting interesting material, as I will start to get involved.

Thanks a lot from Guadalajara, Mexico!

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Torvi4 -- 11/12/2005, 05:21:11 -- #20913
Am interested in It
Please I will need a copy of your chord sheet so as to improve my learning.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Emma.

In The Course of Performance: Studies in the World of Musical Improvisation
pookiecatblue -- 12/03/2005, 15:17:56 -- #21728
chord sheet
So how do we let someone know that we need a chord sheet? I do not see how to contact anyone anywhere on the website. I would like the chord sheet with the hip chords for Autumn Leaves.

Barry -- 12/04/2005, 10:56:54 -- #21743
Click on the link at the bottom of the page that says 'lead sheets' and you will be able to find the charts for hundreds of tunes.  As to 'hip' chords, that's a matter of opinion.  Visit the 'Rehamonization 101' lesson room to learn about chord  substitutions.

AnotherSchmoe -- 12/08/2005, 10:56:29 -- #21958
2-5-1?
Hello all, I have been browsing the website and I am really enjoying it and hope to hang around here for awhile! Just signed up and this is my first post, and I have a question, forgive me if it sounds dumb:

Why is it called the 2-5-1 progression?

7 -- 12/08/2005, 11:41:14 -- #21960
In the key of C the ii-V-I progression would be Dm-G7-C.

D is the second degree of the C scale, G is the fifth degree and obviously C is the first degree of the C scale.

AnotherSchmoe -- 12/11/2005, 09:09:59 -- #22075
Thank you 7! I'm not very knowledgeable about music yet as I'm sort of a beginner. =P

Appreciate the help, I understand now. =)

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clobaton -- 12/21/2005, 08:26:40 -- #22386
LJP MAP
Hi everyone: I invite you all to take a picture and post it in the LJP map, if you have not already done it (link up to the right). Do not be lazzy, let us see your ugly face ;)
CL

In The Course of Performance: Studies in the World of Musical Improvisation
ebuni -- 12/22/2005, 09:50:45 -- #22427
Request for chord sheet
Hi there,
thanks for the provision that you make available on your site.
I have just started on the Jazz basic and I've become and avid player. I use to play piano classics upto level 3 and I 'd like to try on something different and interesting.

So, if it won't be too much trouble, I would like to ask that you pls email me the chord sheet that comes with this lesson.

Thanks.
With Regards,
Ebuni

clobaton -- 12/22/2005, 11:12:33 -- #22430
chord sheet
Email? , to which address?
You can also go to the room "albetan´s area", click on files.  You will find all the necessary chord theory to play this lesson in this room. Also try to get a realbook, they usually have a page with the notes for each chord.
Carlos.

marsienuku -- 01/07/2006, 16:27:38 -- #22882
i am lost

Janvierfriendly -- 01/18/2006, 12:26:54 -- #23201
very happy
I am very happy for the lessons. I am a newer in Jazz music

john_seth -- 03/08/2006, 01:08:46 -- #25005
Cool site!
Hi! ive been reading several jazz books. i wonder if anyone can explain what tritone is...not the triad. i'll apreciate it. thanks!

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7 -- 03/08/2006, 01:35:28 -- #25006
A half-step (Br. half-tone) is the smallest interval in occidental musics. There are 12 half-steps to the octave.

A whole-step (Br. whole-tone) is equal to two half-steps.

A tritone is the interval described by three ("tri") whole steps (whole "tones").

As such the interval is equal to three whole steps which is also equal to six half-steps.

Examples:

C to F#/Gb ( or F#/Gb to C )

C#/Db to G ( or G to C#/Db )

D to G#/Ab ( or G#/Ab to D )

D#/Eb to A ( or A to D#/Eb )

E to A#/Bb ( or A#/Bb to E )

F to B ( or B to F )

ozzybaby -- 03/11/2006, 19:12:52 -- #25127
Please help me with my solo
Hi, I'm new to this site and found it while I was looking for lessons on the web. I'm a high school student who has wanted to play the piano in our school's jazz band for a while. The problem is, there is a lot of competition for the spot and it's opening up at the end of this year. If anyone has some really great exercises and advice for a good solo piece, I'd really appreciate it.

Mecobio -- 03/14/2006, 10:25:11 -- #25183
What is the definition of Jazz?
Hi

Just a question, assuming someone here can know the answer.

There have been some argue about how to define JAZZ.
In the Mark's "Jazz theory book" nothing is said about it and
even in amazon some critize the author becuase of that.

Saying that "improvisation is jazz" is an insult to the human kind
because of improvisation has always been in music since the evolution of homo-sapiens (or the creation of Gud, depending on the believe). By the way, isn't so that any creation involves improvisation?

The jazz literature starts with the Blues. The later is well defined as I(1) IV(5) I(7) V(9) I(11). Important to notice that Rhythm & Blues (R&B) which can be seen as a Blues with slightly variation, was later re-named as Rock & Roll due to commercial and racist motive packaging it as a "white creation" to a more rich white consumers.
Then, the jazz books move to be-bop.

Many says that the term "jass" was rude sexual slang used in New Orleans
brothels. So, Is jazz a commercial name similar to Rock and Roll where both mean sex?

Any serious definition of it out there?
The reason of looking for a definition is that, the more you know
about a subject, the better you can explore it, transformed, play around
with it, etc.

So, if jazz = blues + be-bop, then, jazz itself is not a music but a
package. Then, as every package, it is heavily commercialized and simplified, with a
lot of lies around it and therefore "too flat" compare to the original blues.

Any comments? Please, I'm not looking for "personal opinions from the heart"
but rather from the brain, so we can get rid of the sentimental issues for a
while around it, and try to differentiate between music and commercial crap.
Interesting that in the Mark's "Jazz theory book" he says that many afro-Americans are opposed to the misuse of the term jazz as it is used today.

I really want to know the point of views of those afro-Americans?
What are their arguments?

It is not the first time a music genre is re-named in USA for marketing
reasons spreading simplified mediocre "stuff". The term salsa is just another, which
it is in fact Cuban son (please, read the definition of the Cuban SON included in
the Latin Corner forum files).

It is also said that Tito Puente said that there were good jazz musicians (wonder the definition now) in USA but bad jazz musicians playing "Latin jazz". The term "Latin jazz" is obviously even critized as well, e.g. what it is Latin? What has a latin Italian to do with the Cuban son or any Cuban or Brazilian music? An afro-Cuban musicologist says took this issue far beyond questioning what has a white Spanish speaking argentine to do with afro-cuban drums? The term "descarga" or "descarga cubana" (descarga means download) has been used in Cuba for any kind of improvisation around the Cuban music. Then, any descarga cubana is in fact Cuban music where you add as more as you want in terms of experimental instrumental songs. That is, first you should know the Cuban music very good before to start to do "descarga cubana". Not strange that Chucho Valdes and Gonzalito Rubalcaba are very good in this music as their parents were popular musicians allow them to grow in the "right environment".

Please, don't confuse the issue that many Cuban musicians call themselves as "latin jazz" since this is a way they have to make money and establish contact outside. That is, a commercial name already established in USA due to commercial reasons.

Please, observe from the definition of the Cuban SON written by Raul in the
Latin forum files there are plenty of room for any kind of insertion of scales, chord
progressions, etc and those experiments have been done by Irakere, Van Van, NG La Banda, etc.

Again, the definition of jazz remains to be given, if it is a music genre at
all or just another package for commercial issues.

Any body knows the point of views of those afro-Americans questioning the misuse of the word jazz nowadays? What are their arguments?

Mecobio -- 03/14/2006, 10:25:24 -- #25184
What is the definition of Jazz?
Hi

Just a question, assuming someone here can know the answer.

There have been some argue about how to define JAZZ.
In the Mark's "Jazz theory book" nothing is said about it and
even in amazon some critize the author becuase of that.

Saying that "improvisation is jazz" is an insult to the human kind
because of improvisation has always been in music since the evolution of homo-sapiens (or the creation of Gud, depending on the believe). By the way, isn't so that any creation involves improvisation?

The jazz literature starts with the Blues. The later is well defined as I(1) IV(5) I(7) V(9) I(11). Important to notice that Rhythm & Blues (R&B) which can be seen as a Blues with slightly variation, was later re-named as Rock & Roll due to commercial and racist motive packaging it as a "white creation" to a more rich white consumers.
Then, the jazz books move to be-bop.

Many says that the term "jass" was rude sexual slang used in New Orleans
brothels. So, Is jazz a commercial name similar to Rock and Roll where both mean sex?

Any serious definition of it out there?
The reason of looking for a definition is that, the more you know
about a subject, the better you can explore it, transformed, play around
with it, etc.

So, if jazz = blues + be-bop, then, jazz itself is not a music but a
package. Then, as every package, it is heavily commercialized and simplified, with a
lot of lies around it and therefore "too flat" compare to the original blues.

Any comments? Please, I'm not looking for "personal opinions from the heart"
but rather from the brain, so we can get rid of the sentimental issues for a
while around it, and try to differentiate between music and commercial crap.
Interesting that in the Mark's "Jazz theory book" he says that many afro-Americans are opposed to the misuse of the term jazz as it is used today.

I really want to know the point of views of those afro-Americans?
What are their arguments?

It is not the first time a music genre is re-named in USA for marketing
reasons spreading simplified mediocre "stuff". The term salsa is just another, which
it is in fact Cuban son (please, read the definition of the Cuban SON included in
the Latin Corner forum files).

It is also said that Tito Puente said that there were good jazz musicians (wonder the definition now) in USA but bad jazz musicians playing "Latin jazz". The term "Latin jazz" is obviously even critized as well, e.g. what it is Latin? What has a latin Italian to do with the Cuban son or any Cuban or Brazilian music? An afro-Cuban musicologist says took this issue far beyond questioning what has a white Spanish speaking argentine to do with afro-cuban drums? The term "descarga" or "descarga cubana" (descarga means download) has been used in Cuba for any kind of improvisation around the Cuban music. Then, any descarga cubana is in fact Cuban music where you add as more as you want in terms of experimental instrumental songs. That is, first you should know the Cuban music very good before to start to do "descarga cubana". Not strange that Chucho Valdes and Gonzalito Rubalcaba are very good in this music as their parents were popular musicians allow them to grow in the "right environment".

Please, don't confuse the issue that many Cuban musicians call themselves as "latin jazz" since this is a way they have to make money and establish contact outside. That is, a commercial name already established in USA due to commercial reasons.

Please, observe from the definition of the Cuban SON written by Raul in the
Latin forum files there are plenty of room for any kind of insertion of scales, chord
progressions, etc and those experiments have been done by Irakere, Van Van, NG La Banda, etc.

Again, the definition of jazz remains to be given, if it is a music genre at
all or just another package for commercial issues.

Any body knows the point of views of those afro-Americans questioning the misuse of the word jazz nowadays? What are their arguments?

SolArt -- 03/14/2006, 18:01:03 -- #25207
I have heard Jazz referred to as "organized noise!"

girlygirlNOoo -- 04/10/2006, 21:39:42 -- #26292
Beginner needing help
I am ten years old and trying to teach myself music.
I would love to play the Lambada it is my favourite song.
But your sheet music is very confusing.
Can you make it easy for me.

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girlygirlNOoo -- 04/10/2006, 21:41:35 -- #26293
Saw the beginners cords.
Sorry made no sense to me.  Don't call me stupid. Just call me trying to learn.  After all Ireland does not have a history of Jazz.

musman -- 04/13/2006, 15:31:24 -- #26433
ineed the sheet too.

tariq -- 04/15/2006, 16:33:40 -- #26476
Exercise for a beginner for finger practise
I have a new jaz lover and a beginner I need some exercise for finger practise.Looking forward for help

clobaton -- 04/18/2006, 17:24:24 -- #26542
10 years old trying to learn
dear girlygirlNOoo:

I started teaching myself music when I was your age, and I lost a LOT of time trying to teach myself, because i , just like you, could not understand the chords and the music itself.. please try to find a teacher in your school that teaches you the basics of rhythm (the value of the notes, whole, quarter, eigth, silences ...) and the notes on the keyboard. after this he can teach you the mayor and minor cords.. It took about 4 hours in my case, but I learned it at 27 years old!! believe me, ask for some help from a good music teacher (tell your parents) and right after this you will be ready to read the documents hear and in albetan's room (definitely, visit albetan's room from now!!)

But please, do not loose the will  to learn, if you keep practicing, you will be a monster when you are our age :)

Maartj -- 05/11/2006, 13:35:29 -- #27141
Thats not dm7!

haixin0528 -- 05/18/2006, 00:57:54 -- #27274
Good,I like it.I love music.

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korg -- 07/03/2006, 04:14:01 -- #28500
what to study first
Hi


I started to play the piano one year ago with a private classical teacher who teachs me a lot of classical pieces from Bach, Bürgmuller, Bartók, Schumann, Clementi and so on and a lot of things about fingerrings, major scales, pedal and so on. Here where I live there is no jazz teacher and what I want is to play Jazz so many times I read jazz lesson stuff by myself. I have read a lot about intervals, scales, modes, progressions ii-V-I, not playing roots on righthand ;) and so on and I also play scores from the hanon as a warmup exercises and also the major scales.


But my question is, Is there any guideline for beginners to know what to study first? For example: major triads and inversions in all keys, then major scales, modes, seventh's... I can make the question in another way, If you were a jazz piano teacher, what will you teach first to your students?


What I want to know is where should I focus my efforts.


Sorry by my english faults and thanks in advance.


Jordi (from Canary Islands, Spain)

albetan -- 07/10/2006, 16:19:50 -- #28670
Jazz en Espańol
Hi Jordi:
I invite You to room "Jazz en Espańol".
Click on
Rooms: show list
Personal rooms
.

JG123 -- 08/03/2006, 23:23:43 -- #29066
they use this is that maroon 5 song.  i dont like maroon 5, its not jazz, and no one probably cares.  but i just thought i'd point it out, i dont know...

dalehardeman -- 08/09/2006, 01:05:59 -- #29201
Jazz Piano Teacher
Does anyone know of a jazz piano teacher in the south Orange County area.

7 -- 08/11/2006, 18:53:33 -- #29267
A useful site is http://musicstaff.com

There you can input you zipcode, instrument, style and find teachers within a 5 mile, 10 mile, 20 mile, up to 50 mile radius.

Another way to easily find the teacher you're looking for is to simply google in the search terms "piano lessons" "jazz" & "..your city..".

Good luck.

bastible -- 08/21/2006, 15:17:42 -- #29419
Chord Charts
Where are the chord charts you mentioned? I'm looking for Autumn Leaves in particular.

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abzs2k -- 08/23/2006, 07:36:45 -- #29452
Lead Sheets
The lead sheets link is actually right at the bottom of the page contrary to what is said about it being at the top of the page. Perhaps someone should ammend that.

BQua -- 10/24/2006, 14:11:33 -- #30666
Help me be a master
    
    Can you please mail me some simple and challenging practice lessons for blues? [jinxbq@yahoo.com] I'd be very grateful and in fact, I really love the jazz family and would like to be active.

    To all of you out there, you are not in the wrong place. This has to be the best, or at least one of the best, families in the world.

                                                .......BQua

annde -- 10/30/2006, 01:51:35 -- #30810
This is how it is....
Greetings to all in this family!!
I'm American living in rural France and your site is the only help I have to start (plus a 1950's published Belwin Mills book about popular chord construction ...)  Hard to find a harmony teacher less than an hour away from home...I am persevering however and I will succeed!! Plus my best friend is learning alto sax so we have decided to be in it together as a beginner's duo...  Please wish us luck and hours of practice.  (with 2 kids  each and full time jobs we need all we can get!)

annde -- 11/11/2006, 05:45:47 -- #31076
still working
I think I am on the right track and am more in the jazz framework.  I have  put away my pre-arranged sheet music (at first it was like jumping off a cliff) and my scales and chords are moving along faster and faster.  I consulted a Mark Levine book for all the scale fingerings, otherwise I would have been making mistakes, or at least doing things in a difficult way.  And I spend time at every practice session trying to play something by ear/ by memory.  If I fall to fast and don't have a parachute, I will call for HELP!!!

I'm not really sure I understand the lead sheets on this site.  Is there an explanation somewhere?

bluesbro -- 11/11/2006, 08:11:47 -- #31082
Lost beginner, another classical turned jazz!
Firstly, hello to everybody! i'm sure everyone is going to be a great help to me from now on. I'm a 17 year old pianist from Scotland and i've been playing since i was 7. Although classically trained i have a good aptitude for playing by ear and a good general understanding of simple improv. In the past few years i've tried to move myself in the direction of jazz and blues style piano.  So here's my situation...i can do a basic 12 bar blues style progression with a lot of right hand improvisation but only really on the c major blues scale.  Although i understand a fair bit of theory i am still entirely an amateur when it comes to naming intervals, playing "jazzy" chords, lead sheets and really anything to do with jazz piano that you all make sound so simple. So i ca't even explain well enough what i can do. I recently got some cds to start me off, fats, duke, bird etc.  But id really just like someone to start me off in the right drection and get me out of my rut. You'll all know what its like to hit a wall in your playing, and ive been at this one for a while!  Some help please!!

Scot -- 11/11/2006, 10:02:14 -- #31086
Getting out of the rut is about is easy at it comes. You find something that is hard for you to play, and then spend days, weeks, however long it takes, to learn how to play it.

If you can play blues in C but not in the other 11 keys, then your next project should be to learn all your C blues chord voicings in all the other keys and practice until you can jam the blues in any key a well as you can C.

See, simple?  All it takes is a lot of practice and focus.

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wdennissorrell -- 11/11/2006, 12:31:08 -- #31090
If you fall you do not need a parachute, land on your feet and start playing again. Don't ever quit. As far as the lead sheets, can you explain what it is that you don't quite understand. As for Bluesbro, you cannot get better advice than what Scot says. Not only is this his site but he is one of the best jazz people in the world. Not only is he a super player with great chops, he is also concerned with sharing his ability with others. All for little to no reward. I don't say thanks enough to Scot for all his help, advice, and encouragement! Thanks!!!
Peace out!

annde -- 11/13/2006, 14:07:08 -- #31164
no problem
Thank you for your encouragement, I'm doing all right and I figured out the lead sheets, that is to say that the lines are measures, etc. I just took a better look at it all




bluesbro -- 11/13/2006, 14:46:51 -- #31166
How do i send midi files so you can hear my level. When i say i can jam blues in C its probably still very limited.  Should i be working on ii-v-I progressions?  I need to learn a lot about scales and modes too, any recommended jazz theory books?  Also, would you recommend any starter tunes?  Scot, cheers for the advice, thats something i need to work on tonnes is my ability to play in all keys, i need to open my mind, but should i be trying to learn tunes too by listening and emulating?  Hope thats all clear enough...
Cheers, Finn

Scot -- 11/13/2006, 15:44:45 -- #31171
Finn- you should learn tunes, but at this stage, don't fill up your brain learning a lot of different tunes.  Pick one, like Green Dolphin Street, and learn how to play it in a solo style that you enjoy. Record what you do and when you hear things you don't like or would like to enhance, practice them.

Remember, we all know what sounds good, we all listen to jazz piano on the radio and other recordings, so that's why listening to yourself on tape/minidisc/whatever is do important.

Record the tunes you're working on. Listen to them, no matter how painful it may seem at times.  Then record them again. Fix the trouble spots.  You'll be AMAZED how fast you progress.

Anyone here who has done a lot of studio sessions and/or recordings can attest to this. You grow incredibly fast when you're forced to listen to your own stuff :)

If you want advice on your tunes, find the Midi files room and upload your tunes there.  You may or may not get feedback, but just in the act of trying to make the midi file the way you want, you'll learn something.

bluesbro -- 11/14/2006, 08:49:51 -- #31196
Thanks Scot.  It might be painful but it'll have to be done i suppose. I'll keep you updated with my progress. Cheers

bluesbro -- 11/16/2006, 12:10:55 -- #31226
Chord sheets?
Where do i find chord sheets for songs and also jazz/blues scales written down?

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itztherealme -- 11/21/2006, 21:19:48 -- #31356
hapibeli
Thanks for the site Scott. Am looking forward to progressing with help from this spot. BTW, we lived in Mount Vernon, WA. for 15 years and always found Bellingham to be a nce place.

itztherealme -- 11/22/2006, 09:20:50 -- #31367
Finger dexterity
I'm having issues with my left ring finger as I play the chords. It is not as supple as my right and I find it hard to lift it out of the way. Will time and effort loosen it up or are there specific exercises I can do?
Thanks

Scot -- 11/22/2006, 12:55:12 -- #31377
Finger Dexterity
For this kind of finger dexterity, the old standard Hanon exercises work , also practicing your scales can help.  When practicing you scales, go really slow, such as one beat per second, and really think about lifting each of the fingers up individually, as far as they can go, before striking the note.

Now, you wouldn't really play this way, but it's one way of building up your dexterity and strength.

mr_music06 -- 12/01/2006, 08:01:22 -- #31505
New to the site
I am new to this site and I can already tell that I am going to like it. There seems to be endless resources that will prove to be very useful.

Nelson.m -- 12/11/2006, 13:39:54 -- #31649
1-6-2-5-1
Hi Scott,
I've been practising the 2-5-1 progression with the two hand open/closed five note voicing, and that seem to bee making some  nice sounds, but, i want to move to the 1-6-2-5-1 with ease of movement. What is the best way to do this going around the cycle of fifths.

setfree06 -- 12/18/2006, 11:04:01 -- #31785
Thank yopu for the tutorial. please i need information on chord progression

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sbailey26 -- 12/19/2006, 03:00:03 -- #31789
sbailey26
Thank you so much, this site is really helpful. I would like a chord sheet if possible.
Danke

YourMove -- 01/06/2007, 13:51:55 -- #32217
How do you practise scales?
Hi, as I still need to learn the major scales both for technique and for music theory I'm putting together scale exercises for band in a box, as I don't like that metronome ticking...

As I'm a beginner in scales I searched the internet and found this:

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Thelonius, one thing that helped me when starting working on scales is to use the metronome. This makes sure that you're not slighting any of the notes (as they all must be perfectly even).

Also, try playing them very staccato. This reinforces the "togetherness" between hands. Your fingers will get the idea of playing together, and with the short crisp sound from the staccato, it's easier to recognize unevenness.

Last, when you've gotten your scales down well, I suggest playing them in 3rds, 6ths and 10th. For 3rds, start on the root notes with your LH and a 3rd up with your RH and play the scale with appropriate accidentals and fingering as if you were playing in octaves. This means that for 3rds you would play:

C major
RH:EFGABCDE
   31234123...and down
LH:CDEFGABC
   54321321...and down

10ths is the same, except your RH is an octave up. 6ths is the tricky one to me (especially for some melodic minors), and you start on the root note with your left hand and a 6th down in your left. For example:

C major
RH: CDEFGABC
    12312341...and down
LH: EFGABCDE
    32143213...and down

The intervals may sound silly, but they require you to think more and any unevenness is MUCH more evident. Try playing a scale in 3rds really fast and see how even it sounds! If you can play scales well in intervals then you will notice your scales in octaves improving.

I think it's great that you're going after scales. I've only been doing them extensively for the past year or so and my technique has improved greatly.
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So, how do you learn/practise the scales?

Whacky -- 01/06/2007, 16:38:05 -- #32221
For what it's worth, I like to practice different scales in each hand - for example, my LH might play C major while my RH plays E major.  This helps me to hear if each hand is pulling its load so to speak, and helps foster independence in listening and playing - some combinations sound pretty cool two - and some do not :)

YourMove -- 01/07/2007, 06:58:04 -- #32229
Sounds interesting, will try that later once I know the scales from heart.

To all: If you are interested, message me and I can send you either the mp3 file or the band in a box file of my practise D Major file. Please tell me what you think.

annde -- 01/15/2007, 14:02:27 -- #32421
progress...
Hello !!  First of all, Happy new year to all on the site, may 2007 bring to you all you desire, lots of good notes, for example...

I've gotten the 2-5-1's down ok, I still have to work on dexterity and evenness of my keystrokes (I'll follow the latest advice about metronoming.)  I'm working on 1 tune for me and 2 tunes to play with my saxophoning friend, we're both beginning. I feel as though my comps are really wishy washy, but I'm keeping on with your advice, I'll enrich as I go along.  
thanks so much for this site because otherwise I feel so lonesome in jazz here in rural southwest France...it's my own personal adventure.


gandydancer44 -- 01/17/2007, 23:32:16 -- #32476
Forum Compilation Search
It is recommended that new Jazz students read Forum Compilation. Have searched LJP and
can't find a path to this publication. Any help? Gandydancer44

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gandydancer44 -- 01/17/2007, 23:32:30 -- #32477
Forum Compilation Search
It is recommended that new Jazz students read Forum Compilation. Have searched LJP and
can't find a path to this publication. Any help? Gandydancer44

Barry -- 02/02/2007, 20:32:51 -- #32850
If you scroll to the bottom of the page there is a link to click for the forum compilation...

annde -- 02/26/2007, 14:22:02 -- #33343
What next?
Scales, 2-5-1's, learning chords and all the triads, 7ths and 9ths in songs as I go along....What else can I do to move along, once I memorize  a song and its chords, for example? Beginner as I am, I haven't forgotten that lots of practice and patience are necessary, but as anyone who has already read my messages knows, I AM ALONE WITH MY PIANO IN SOUTHWEST RURAL FRANCE and with their system of music learning over here... well... it's not always so simple. (They sometimes give kids a long lessons in music theory before they even can touch an instrument, the poor things...)  Thanks, my best to you all.

Scot -- 03/01/2007, 14:36:42 -- #33431
Next?  Learn a new song and apply new techniques to it.  

Next? Transcribe!  Transcribe some solo piano music. That will always help you to the  next level.

annde -- 03/03/2007, 15:03:07 -- #33490
ok
Thank you Scot for the tip, I understand how that can be useful.  At the same time,  I didn't really allow myself to go past "The Basics" but when I took the time to see other rooms and all the input from so many different people, I don't think I will need to ask "what next?" for a while.  May just looking for a little moral support.

bye for now...

Scot -- 03/05/2007, 12:51:22 -- #33526
Don't get too bogged down in thinking about "all the stuff" you have to do, just to the next thing.  Doing a transcription, such as the piano solo on Freddie Freeloader from the Miles Davis recording (Kind of Blue or Birth of the Cool, can't remember), is a great way to expand your musical mind.  In fact, just doing transcriptions is a great way to become a jazz piano monster.

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gandydancer44 -- 03/25/2007, 13:37:37 -- #34176
Transcribe 7
Would appreciate any comments from users of this software tool from www.seventhstring.com. I am just beginning the playback technique to identify notes and am
a relative first stage beginner on piano.

Scot -- 03/25/2007, 15:22:38 -- #34183
I like Transcribe, it's what I use when transcribing stuff.

YourMove -- 03/28/2007, 12:52:28 -- #34272
help needed for checking a new website about the circle of fifths
Hi all, can you help me out? I'm putting a new website together about learning the circle of fifths and need someone with a musical background to check the lessons. Do you have 3 Minutes? If so check here:
http://www.circle-of-fifths.net/learn.html

Please let me know if all is easy understandable.

Thanks so much. Yours, Jan
Site should be fully functional sunday night.

knotty -- 03/28/2007, 13:11:39 -- #34273
Hey Jan,

The flash app is really cool.

I only looked at test1.
comments:

- How many accidentals does the key of G have?
I suppose the answer is one, although I thought the definition of accidentals where flats and sharps NOT in the key signature.

- This is the G Scale. then you show the G scale starting on C. So I answered no. I see the scale you show as C Lydian. Maybe I'm wrong.

Other than that it really looks cool. Something I would suggest is showing an explanation of the answer, especially when the answer is wrong.

I'll add more later.

YourMove -- 03/28/2007, 13:19:04 -- #34274
Hey thanks for letting me know!

[[[[- How many accidentals does the key of G have?
I suppose the answer is one, although I thought the definition of accidentals where flats and sharps NOT in the key signature.[[[[

Help, my music theory (if I can speak of some) and my english do make me feel lost.... How can I ask this question better?

-I thought about the modes, but also thought I can overlook the different modes to make it more interesting. But why not learn it correct from the start :)
I will change that until sunday.

-That answer explanation would be great, but the tool that I use doesn't offer it...

Again thanks for your help it is soo much appreciated :)
Yours, Jan
BTW that p-chat is semi-live :)

sdm -- 03/28/2007, 16:54:50 -- #34279
Not bad for sure.  You might want to find a way to let folks know to click to proceed.  Most will guess it eventually.  I took the second test and think I found a bug in the order of keys.  Pretty sure I had those right.  A little confusion about submit.  Nice work overall and could help a lot of people get started.

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YourMove -- 03/29/2007, 00:49:22 -- #34281
]]] You might want to find a way to let folks know to click to proceed.  Most will guess it eventually. [[[

There already is a little text about that, which will be featured more prominently in the future.

]]]I took the second test and think I found a bug in the order of keys.  Pretty sure I had those right. [[[[

I will take a look into that, if you remember which one it was, that would be great though.

]]] A little confusion about submit.[[[
Thanks for letting me know, will get that straight too.

]]] Nice work overall and could help a lot of people get started. [[[
Thank you ! Eventually it will work well.

Yours, Jan

knotty -- 03/29/2007, 08:03:21 -- #34284
about the G scale, you don't have to worry about modes, but rather start it on G.
Also, I would say C Major Scale rather than just C Scale.

About accidentals, you can ask how many sharps.

Better yet, since I see you can do drag and drop, could you let people drop sharps on the lines directly ?

YourMove -- 03/29/2007, 14:19:42 -- #34290
I thought about making correct scales, but was not sure to add more spice.. I will rethink this, maybe an extra lesson and test for the modes...

Would C Scale and Cm Scale for C minor work?

By asking how many sharps it is implied that sharps are asked for, so I will stay with the accidentals..

No, dragging and dropping sharps or flats will not be possible for now, although I love the idea..

Thanks again for your suggestions and help :)

mumphie -- 04/28/2007, 16:56:36 -- #34784
Need Chord Sheets
I would like chord sheets for Lullaby of Birdland and Autumn Leaves.  I didn't see them available on the site.  Mumphie

knotty -- 04/30/2007, 05:59:57 -- #34794
Actually I see both of them here, scroll down and click "lead sheets"

Tameerily -- 05/18/2007, 17:47:06 -- #35141
Book by John Mehegan
My piano teacher had me to purchase two series of books by John Mehegan, Jazz Improvisation and the Jazz Pianist.

Are these series of books worth the time?

The Jazz Improvisation 1 book is over seventy lessons long! True enough that by lesson seven or so I'vebecome proficient in playing lead sheet (chord/melody)style.

But does anyone out there know what I'm going to sound like after lesson 77, some ????? years downs the line? And then I have three more books to go!!!

Woe is me! Woe is me! But I want to know how the play jazz piano really bad!!!!

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Scot -- 05/19/2007, 06:50:38 -- #35146
Hi,

Those John Mehegan books good and they can give you some insight on the best ways to deal with chord changes (by numbers).

However, you can't learn jazz piano from those books.  The only way to learn jazz piano is to listen to recordings that you love and then learn how to play exactly what you hear.  That's how the greatest jazz musicians learn their craft (along with studying theory).

Also, when you're learning tunes, try to learn them off records/cds. Much better than learning off lead sheets.

khyu777 -- 07/06/2007, 11:57:03 -- #35698
Another question..
So..

Cm7b5 or C half-diminished 7 : C Eb Gb Bb(im not sure about this one,)

hmm..

im confused, isn't Cm7b5 and Cdim7 the same??

cuz they both have 3rd and 5th note flat...

what am i doing wrong??

sdm -- 07/06/2007, 12:35:26 -- #35699
You're missing the 7th.  The 7th in a dim chord is double-flat (is that the right term?).  So in C it is C Eb Gb Bbb (or A).  The dom 7th makes of the cm7b5 makes it a very different chord.

Whacky -- 07/06/2007, 14:35:55 -- #35707
This is one of these areas where it all gets kinda silly.  The Bb in a C  chord is actually called a minor 7th, not a dominant 7th.  That same Bb  added to a C major triad creates a dominant 7th chord (the V7 chord in the key of F major)

Sooooo..... on diminished triad, adding a minor 7th (Bb in this case) creates a half-diminished 7th.  Adding a diminished 7th (Bbb) creates a dim 7 chord

clear as mud??

sid -- 07/06/2007, 14:48:58 -- #35708
Another way to think of this is in terms of the parent diminished scale.

The C half-tone/whole-tone scale is C Db Eb E F# G A Bb
Cdim7 is made up of the notes 1-3-5-7 in the scale - hence dim7.

But you're right, it's confusing.

sid

wdennissorrell -- 07/06/2007, 16:49:32 -- #35709
Listing the diminished chord only may supply a little light:

C Eb Gb A

It is important to realize that this is also the A dim, the Eb dim, and the Gb dim. There are only three truly diminished chords. Dimished chords are series of minor thirds. At least that is what works best for me.
Peace out!

Maybeck Recital Hall Series: Hal Galper
sdm -- 07/06/2007, 21:48:46 -- #35714
Duh!  Sorry 'bout the dom 7.  Minor 7th (degree, right?, not chord).  

For me one of the many nice things about the dimished chord is that because there are only three, I play them (oh geeze, math!) three times (ha - fake it!) more than the other forms of 7th chords in arpeggio practice.  (now, let's see, 12 keys, 5 forms per key...)

scott

nimi_namen -- 07/11/2007, 15:42:04 -- #35806
confused
C Major 7 chord has no C in it?

Scot -- 07/11/2007, 23:09:14 -- #35816
It has a C in the root, but jazzers play four note rootless voicings, so to get four notes without playing the root (C), you add the 9th.

des belds -- 08/05/2007, 18:18:19 -- #36223
Classical Pianist, can we be a jazz pianist too?
SIr, I am glad you have shared your tallent by creating a website like this. I am a conseratory of music graduate but can I ask you and please tell me, can we calssical music pianist learn how to play the jazz music? As far as I know jazz has a different touch and technique..Thank you and more power..

Respectfully yours,
DES Belds

glynn -- 08/05/2007, 18:45:47 -- #36224
In answer to your question: yes
My friend,

being a classically trained pianist is a very good way to become a jazz pianist.  Nearly all of the great jazz players started out as classical as it seems to give a good grounding in harmony, technique etc.

I can also tell you from experience that not coming from a classical background means I had to basically start from scratch.

You are in a good position to now becme a jazz player, and my advice would be to start listening to a lot of jazz piano players (Bill Evans, Keith Jarret etc..), to get you in the jazz mood.  You should also pick up the different touch that jazz brings with it from these recordings.

Good luck, you'v come to the right place!

erikgran -- 08/27/2007, 11:29:28 -- #36582
Benefits of piano playing for a guitarist
I've got a nice old piano in the house, and since noone plays it I try to noodle a little, and will try to learn some jazz playing from this site. I'm playing guitar, and work on improving my guitar skills, so I wonder if it's wise to learn another instrument parallell with the guitar? My intuition and gut feeling says yes, since I can transfer my theoretical knowledge directly, and may get some different ideas from the keyboard than what falls most easily under my fingers on the fretboard. There's of course a trade-off in practise time, but I hope that some of the musical learning is transferable between the instruments.

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larogers -- 09/08/2007, 19:30:17 -- #36915
fingering minor pentatonic scales
Really basic question: Is there a specific way to finger blues scales? I learned the diatonic scales as a kid on the piano, but if there are only five notes (or 6 with the "blues" note added), it's all changed. I'd guess that the fingering will help with playing improvisation later on. Right now my fingers are tripping on each other. thanks.

annde -- 10/06/2007, 06:14:33 -- #37419
Back, and motivated...
Hello, happy to be back...

I got bogged down in the spring and was invited to play in a local band and they lent me a baritone sax (my high school instrument) so my poor keyboard took the backseat for a while.  So Ihave recently  found an occasional (not weekly, but every 3 or 4 weeks) piano teacher to make sure I don't lose all the work I did thanks to this site. I showed her what I work on from "The Basics" and that's fine, I have to work on my hand position (especially left hand) she has me doing some exercises with fingers 2-3-4 on the black keys for some extra dexterity.  I also hadn't been very strict concerning rhythms, I wasn't (and still am not I have discovered) very used to syncopation, having mostly a classical training.  The exercise book she recommended to me is "The Little Pischna".  Anyone know it? She has me writing up my left hand score so I have a base to work from.  She is pleased with my chord knowledge (thanks again this site) and everything is going to roll along!!!!

mestizzo -- 01/04/2008, 20:13:40 -- #39439
Thank you very much for posting this lesson and being such a great help.
My question is: On the 2-5-1 progression lesson, the V chord does something I can't really figure out in order to practice it in other keys. So when practicing in other keys, I just count intervals between notes, just to copy the same structure on the lesson.
Could you please tell me what it is that the V chord is doing there? I mean, is it an inversion? What is the structure that it follows to have those extra notes there?
Thank you very much

knotty -- 01/05/2008, 05:17:13 -- #39452
He's voincing the G7 using from bottom up the 7th, 9th, 3rd and 13th.

Really, it's easier to look at it from the standpoint that you're only moving one finger between the ii and the V. So it sounds real smooth. Practice this in all keys, try to see what finger moves and which are common tones.

mestizzo -- 01/06/2008, 06:57:37 -- #39486
oh, I see. So when the pianist is playing this chord, although it says "play me this 7th chord" he is "voicing it" without really stopping to think if it is a 9th or a 13th in the voicing, right? or is he conciously voicing on those. When voicing, can you voice either way you want, not necessarily 7th,9th,11th,13th... etc?
Sorry for asking so many questions.
So in other words, is he just sort of exploring these two things?:
1. what's gonna give me a sound that would take me smoothly from II to I through V. And,
2. Is it comfortable to play?

Sorry, for being such a newbie, just want to get the idea of what's behind it so that I can apply it to without just repeating and not knowing why it is that way.

Thanks again for all of your help!

knotty -- 01/06/2008, 11:05:22 -- #39489
yeah, that's why it's probably a good idea to practice these voicings in both hands. So you don't need to stop and think which finger moves. It just becomes automatic. Practicing with shell voicings will be most useful at first because you can play any tune with this simple system.

The other thing to consider is where to play it. You typically want the lowest note in the chord between middle C and the octave below. That will force you to learn inversions as well.

There's a ton of possible chord voicings. You should take a look at Albetans' area and "list files". That area alone contains more that you can ever assimilate in years :)

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mestizzo -- 01/07/2008, 06:13:41 -- #39505
thank you knotty!

I've also looked at Albetan's area. He's got a lot of good info. Unfortunately, half way through the blog the messages dissappear and all is left is the titles of those messages or posts he's made. Then, towards the end, they reappear, but none of the files are clickable. I even found some sort of list he put together for people to follow his posts in a certain order based on your individual needs, but the files can't be opened. What am I doing wrong?
I've been on this site for only a few days now, although I do read and check it everyday for several hours, but I am still having trouble navigating it...

knotty -- 01/07/2008, 09:17:07 -- #39512
did you click on the "list files" link?

then you should see this
http://www.learnjazzpiano.com/citadel/scotcit.mvc?action=files&sub=file_list&room_id=1075579460&hall_id=1074923352

Many are pdf documents,like this one:
http://www.learnjazzpiano.com/citadel/scotcit.mvc?action=files&sub=file_details&id=1078756779

It should open in acrobat or a pdf reader.

Explore other rooms as well like 7s or Jeff's site, for example this:
http://www.jeff-brent.com/Lessons/9thVoicings.html

Lots of good stuff. Ultimately, listen and play before you get buried under a pile of theory :)


hwent1 -- 01/19/2008, 05:08:27 -- #39805
chord sheets
I do need chord sheets, are there any available
                                     hwent1

knotty -- 01/19/2008, 14:42:12 -- #39818
bottom of this site , link "Lead Sheets"

moonrover -- 02/21/2008, 15:24:00 -- #40424
shape of chords..
the lesson is very helpful and attractive.
thanx .
my question is your idea of 'adjusting' or maipulating shape of chords in 2-5-1 progression, is consist of only adding or removing 9th, 11th etc? or is it about ellimination and reversing (inverting) chords also?
cause I didn't saw any diff in examples all where 1st reversee of root chords etc...

bluenotes -- 06/20/2008, 09:55:41 -- #41716
A Mistake?
the notes of the acords(D,G,C) are wrong???

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loveforJAZZ -- 06/29/2008, 09:00:38 -- #41830
No, you misunderstood it.

Those notes are the extensions of those chords.

tsnmicheal -- 07/08/2008, 07:55:36 -- #41945
2-5-1
more explanation on playing 2-5-1

tsnmicheal -- 07/08/2008, 07:59:37 -- #41946
chord sheet
please i really ned a chord sheet

osayande -- 07/17/2008, 11:22:57 -- #42033
hi

sunfly -- 09/05/2008, 13:09:48 -- #42589
PRACTISING 2- 5 - 1
I found that the best way for me to learn the 2 - 5 - 1 progression was to start a 2 5 1 in C major on the 2 (d) and play the scale as STARTING ON a 2 then a 5 then a 1 (c major)and your led to the next progression by dropping the c major to c7 and your then in 2 (c) of the Bb scale WHICH OF COURSE YOU THEN PLAY and take it from there and so On AND ON until back to D MAJOR.
You also do this starting with 2 5 1 of  F major starting AT 2 (g) to play the other scales that brings you back to the beginning at F major.A GOOD PRACTISE ROUTINE

hollrm -- 11/13/2008, 18:12:21 -- #43077
Lead Sheets
At the top of the BASIC lesson it says "If you need chord sheets, click on the Lead Sheets link near the top of the page" It is repeated later in the lesson.

I searched and searched the page and can't find any link. Where is it?

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chchlong333 -- 11/17/2008, 09:48:42 -- #43097
how can get the chord sheets?
how can get the chord sheets?

Scot -- 12/04/2008, 11:14:38 -- #43200
Click on "lead sheets" at the bottom of the page, sorry.

secarlton -- 01/07/2009, 09:44:10 -- #43372
rootless chords
Hi.  I'm a classically trained pianist, learning jazz piano.  I've got ii-V-I down comfortable, but I have a lot of difficulty playing without the root in the left hand.  Any suggestions on how to efficiently practice this?  THanks much

Scott

Scot -- 01/20/2009, 10:44:27 -- #43491
It's a hard leap.  I was classically trained and it took a while.  Sometimes it just takes time.  Do the 2-5-1 scale exercise in all keys over and over again, every day.  That really helped me.

Then when you are learning a song, say On Green Dolphin Street (my first jazz song), don't be root bound.  Try to hear the harmony in your head without playing the root of the chord, or try playing the root of the chord in the middle of the chord instead of below.  Once you get away from building things onto the root of the chord, your playing loses some boundaries...

But it's not easy!  So keep it up and don't get discouraged.  At some point in time things will click and you'll be happy you stuck out all the hard work.

Not to bow my own horn, but my book might be helpful (see the home page of this site).

sbu -- 03/16/2009, 08:10:27 -- #44054
about the songs
can i please receive the chords to the songs above.

adk -- 03/16/2009, 23:46:05 -- #44057
Help with step 5
Hi, I have tried to follow the 5 steps you set out in The Basics section.

(1) I have learnt the melkody of several tunes
(2) I have learned the bass of these tuneS
(3) I can play the melody and bass together.  In fact I can even play the melody in my right hand and the chord in my left hand using both tonic and rootless voicings
(4) I have memorized many of these tunes.
(5) This is where I get stuck.  I do not know how to expand my arrangment of these tunes beyond melody in the right hand and chord in the left hand.

Any help getting beyond this point would be apprciated.

Thanks.

--Adam

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Scot -- 04/05/2009, 16:04:51 -- #44145
Sorry for the delayed post, hope you get it.  Basically at this point you need to develop your jazz vocabulary by doing a lot of listening/copying and by doing as much transcription as possible.

Go to concerts, play along with guys on YouTube, etc...

dira mangkoedipoero -- 04/17/2009, 00:18:17 -- #44228
AUTUMN LEAVES
i wanna learn the autumn leaves song or speak low song. thanks

LYDIA.IGWT -- 06/04/2009, 07:53:22 -- #44534
Thank's, I need to learn this.

eclectics -- 07/17/2009, 16:17:50 -- #44805
question for advise
I am learning to play the keyboard.[beginner] Can someone advise me a method to start with learning to play jazz.

Scot -- 07/22/2009, 15:16:05 -- #44830
The first Jamey Aebersold book covers a lot of basics, plus you can play along with a recorded rhythm section.

richybatten -- 07/28/2009, 08:22:27 -- #44868
Chord Sheets
Have you got a chord sheets for Autumn Leaves as mentioned above pls?

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knotty -- 07/30/2009, 06:42:27 -- #44878
bottom of the page, you have a "lead sheets" link.

avles -- 08/03/2009, 14:54:18 -- #44899
chord sheet
wld it  be possible to get the autumn leaves sheet

Scot -- 08/14/2009, 11:42:18 -- #44916
Hi, click on the "lead sheets" link at the bottom of the page.

vivies -- 11/06/2009, 00:35:02 -- #45776
A good jazz piano course on dvd
Hello,

I found a good jazz piano lesson on video with some free lessons :

http://www.musiclassroom.com/cours/livre.php?lang=en&livre=20

enjoy !

Adult Learner -- 11/24/2009, 12:40:03 -- #45918
Jim Rousey Jazz Books
Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the Jazz books and pamphlets offered by Jim Rousey.   I am considering purchasing and would like to find someone who knows if they are useful or not.

Thanks.

djnorich -- 12/02/2009, 08:00:20 -- #45980
ask midi
can give me the midi file that contain autumn leaves' chord in jazz variation?
djnorich@yahoo.com

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Joe90 -- 03/21/2010, 08:50:05 -- #46983
Where do I start?
I have some piano experience (mostly classical) so my fingers work. But, I have never been able to get into the theory for Jazz and playing 'freely'. You have a lot of material on this site - could you suggest the best order for tackling this stuff. I want to be able to play standards with my own funky, bluesy, jazzy sound. Ultimately I want to be able to compose but that can wait a few years! I need some direction but can't afford a decent teacher.

Cheers
Joe

wolfgarza -- 05/06/2010, 17:44:53 -- #47278
Heard of RealBookSoftware? Also,Tyro lookin for help.
Hello,

I'm somewhat new to this site, I've been playing the things listed here and I greatly appreciate the advice, especially the scale with the 2/5/1. I have taken some traditional theory classes, two to be exact. But my trouble is this, that I'm confused as to where to find the tunes listed above to practice on record or cd, it is difficult to practice something that I may have never heard before. Which ones do you recommend and where would I purchase them. Also, have you heard of the software program with the tunes as mp3's and fake book all together?

Thanks in advance

Jorge_Elizondo -- 05/31/2010, 00:13:43 -- #47413
its pretty confusing
the chords are not well writen

Griser -- 05/31/2010, 11:17:59 -- #47417
Jamey Aebersold's books are a good source for those trying to improve their jazz skills.

ggglhf -- 06/08/2010, 00:47:29 -- #47436
good to learn jazz piano
# Learn the melody
# Learn the bass
http://www.learntopianoonline.com

ggglhf -- 06/08/2010, 00:48:08 -- #47437
good to learn jazz piano
# Learn the melody
# Learn the bass
http://www.learntopianoonline.com

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dream4music -- 06/15/2010, 14:12:11 -- #47469
This is what I've been searching for thank you.

agms -- 06/16/2010, 14:57:40 -- #47472
Can't read messages
I just signed up today.  Jazz lesson one:  The Basics

Now, at the bottom of the lesson, there are messages, but I can't read any.  Just looks like a subject line, and I can't click on them to open them.  Is this a problem with my browser?

Thanks

agms -- 06/16/2010, 14:57:36 -- #47471
Can't read messages
I just signed up today.  Jazz lesson one:  The Basics

Now, at the bottom of the lesson, there are messages, but I can't read any.  Just looks like a subject line, and I can't click on them to open them.  Is this a problem with my browser?

Thanks

agms -- 06/16/2010, 15:00:29 -- #47473
never mind
the message text is showning now... not sure what was wrong

learnpiano -- 09/26/2010, 00:30:42 -- #47828
http://learntopianoonline.com/piano-lessons/

psylocke24 -- 01/10/2011, 21:03:55 -- #48045
Learning
I am learning from here.. http://takelessons.com/

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alexf404 -- 03/11/2011, 11:48:28 -- #48188
Found a great program to learn the basics
Check it out here.  They are selling it for alot less than when I got it a while back.  Grab it while you can.

http://e2c514rz465nkl4d0hoe3uep7l.hop.clickbank.net/

Jazz Biginner -- 04/17/2011, 12:05:07 -- #48256
Thanks! It looks like they're helpful!!!

Jazz Biginner -- 04/17/2011, 12:47:39 -- #48257
As I learn from The Basic, The C7 chord has: E G bB D, why in The Almighty 2-5-1, The C7 Chord has: E (A) bB E . Can anybody tell me why? Thanks in advance!!!

Jazz Biginner -- 04/17/2011, 12:49:31 -- #48258
Sorry! It's E (A) bB D in The Almighty 2-5-1

Lunga -- 12/12/2011, 00:16:19 -- #49245
help
How do you delete an old archived message here?

MortgageGuy -- 01/03/2012, 19:04:27 -- #49348
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Yakubu -- 01/24/2012, 01:56:01 -- #49400
Am ready to learn
Pls am new to all thes chord and scall, i cant read writen music pls help me.  am learnin  music producing    

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