Scot Ranney's LearnJazzPiano.com archive: Walking Bass

LearnJazzPiano.com archives: Walking Bass
KillerAlex26 -- 10/25/2004, 14:52:19 -- #8338
no m sale esto!!!
estoy tratando d hacer los ultimos dos ejercicios pero no m saleeen!!!!!!!! estoy sacandola por oido asi q creo q necesitare aprenderme la escala d fa en piano!! asi q, m la pueden dar? jeje.... muchos diran como esta intentando aprender a tocar jazz sin aprenderse por lo menos la escala d fa, pues..... ayudenme!!!
desa -- 12/05/2004, 05:53:00 -- #9478

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Neighbor -- 12/11/2004, 11:30:33 -- #9609
Stride left hand bass piano playing
Could I take these concepts and apply them to stride piano techniques?
Neighbor -- 12/11/2004, 11:31:21 -- #9610
Stride left hand bass piano playing
Could I take these concepts and apply them to stride piano techniques?
7 -- 12/11/2004, 16:45:24 -- #9614

I don't know if this is what you're asking about but here's an article that deals with 10ths in Stride: http://www.Jeff-Brent.com/Lessons/lh10ths.html
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paddyallen -- 12/16/2004, 15:05:08 -- #9720
Playing by ear
Hi all, I've been playing by ear ever since about 10 years old. My mother could too and I have now retired and can devote more time to practice. I'm fairly competent at right hand stuff (Always jazz for last 60 years)somewhat on the lines of Teddy Wilson style but miles away from his fantastic perfect talent. I want to do more playing of good stride left hand. James P Johnson, Ralph Sutton, style. Any tips to improve the left hand power/speed, I can only span an octive but the hand gets a bit weak after 2or3 minutes. I am happy with the actual notes to play as it is simple on full octave walking base, if as we do when playing by ear, have the sound in our ears and just know where they come on the keyboard. I would just love anyone who has not seen and heard Erroll Garner on tape which was available this year from Kultur Website in the US. Sorry to digress, more on that subject some other time. Alan
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paddyallen -- 12/16/2004, 15:09:42 -- #9721
Playing by ear
Hi all, I've been playing by ear ever since about 10 years old. My mother could too and I have now retired and can devote more time to practice. I'm fairly competent at right hand stuff (Always jazz for last 60 years)somewhat on the lines of Teddy Wilson style but miles away from his fantastic perfect talent. I want to do more playing of good stride left hand. James P Johnson, Ralph Sutton, style. Any tips to improve the left hand power/speed, I can only span an octive but the hand gets a bit weak after 2or3 minutes. I am happy with the actual notes to play as it is simple on full octave walking base, if as we do when playing by ear, have the sound in our ears and just know where they come on the keyboard. I would just love anyone who has not seen and heard Erroll Garner to hear and see him on tape, which was available this year from Kultur Website in the US. Sorry to digress, more on that subject some other time. Alan
albetan -- 12/17/2004, 06:00:31 -- #9734

Hi Alan: Never is too late to learn to play by note. Please go to search engine (upwards) and write "at sight" selecting "files".
7 -- 12/17/2004, 10:13:50 -- #9747

Playing Stride piano is not by any means easy. For increasing speed and stamina I can only reccommend 3 techniques: 1. Practice 2. Practice 3. Practice Kind of like body building ...
7 -- 12/17/2004, 10:15:48 -- #9749

For more on Stride Piano left hand: http://www.Jeff-Brent.com/Lessons/lh10ths.html
Neighbor -- 12/29/2004, 01:18:39 -- #9957
To Scot and all the Jazz Organist hiding in this site ( From Neighbor)
AS I posted in the basics room this room on walking Bass really helps us Jazz organist. Just add the pedal to the left hand Chords and come up with all Your AD LIBS. Come Jazz organist doubling on Jazz Piano I know you guys are here. Neighbor
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Whacky -- 12/29/2004, 07:55:11 -- #9965

Well, I have a "B" sitting right next to me, but I walk bass with my LH (I just pull out the first 2 drawbars for the lower manual) - my feet just don't get it:) At the moment my Leslie is in need of tubes, so I can only fantasize about playing it...but that thing really gets me going - you should have heard it right before the tubes went out - a real dirty grinder:)
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albetan -- 12/29/2004, 11:56:46 -- #9968
organists
Hi Neighbor: Many of us play the organ. Please go to search engine (upwards) and write "organists" selecting "threads"
Neighbor -- 12/29/2004, 22:59:18 -- #9983
To Albeltan w and Artists Formerly known as Wacky P From Neighbor
Thank you very much guys. As you guys know sometimes it can be hard getting foot pedal skills on Jazz organ techniques. The thread Organ room is of a Great-Great help!!!!! I'm also a bass player, so I try to apply the Bass music theory to the left hand and foot. Neighbor
albetan -- 12/29/2004, 23:56:03 -- #9986

Hi Neighbor: I invite you to "Technique and exercises". See "Mastering Organ bass pedals"... Play it with a swing feeling.
AZFred -- 03/27/2005, 08:23:23 -- #12234
New Member
I just joined this forum. I've played around with the piano off and on all of my life. 30 Years ago I bought a Yamaha G2 for $4200 new and I still have it today. All of my life I've wanted to play, but school, work etc. always took priority over practicing. About 20 years ago I took a few months lessons in Jazz Piano from a (then) beginning piano teacher in Seattle named Randy Halberstadt [http://www.randyhalberstadt.com/] He's pretty well known now, and has some CDs and a book out("Metaphors for the Musician: Perspectives from a Jazz Pianist") Two years ago I retired, moving from Seattle to Arizona. Now I'm wanting to practice - perhaps get good enough to play in a hotel lobby or something like that. I know chords, scales and I can sight read lead sheets but I just can't seem to put whole songs together so they sound good to me. My favorite player is Bill Evans. I don't have any hope of sounding like him, but he's the one I like to listen to the most. I like a lot of other players like Keith Jarrett, Dave McKenna et al. I have a lot of respect for players like Oscar Peterson and Jessica Williams, but I don't buy their recordings because they're just too fast and complicated for me to hear. I just ran across this web-site for the first time this morning, so I'm just learning what's here. I ended up in the "Bass Line" area because one of the things I can't seem to do is to create different rhythms for the songs I play. I have a good sense of rhythm, but when I play, it either has no rhythm or the rhythm is just that boom/chunk 4/4 bass note/chord style. I'm open to any suggestions about how I should proceed. I'd sure like to be able to play a little better before I die. I just turned 60.
Scot -- 04/05/2005, 15:26:27 -- #12495

Same way we all proceed- listen to the music we want to play and then try to play it. You know how to play already, so it sounds like all you really need to do is get a little deeper into the music you want to play. Record yourself playing songs and make a critical analysis of the difference between your playing the music you want to play. Then record the song again, making adjustments. Sometimes you hear in the recording that you need to slow something down, or the timing isn't right in something, so fix it and record again. THis is one of many ways to really make a change in your playing.
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meinhardjahn -- 06/02/2005, 07:56:23 -- #14424
Walking bass for waltz
Hi, how do I play a walking bass in a waltz the best? What are the rules here? Greetz from Germany Meinhard
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albetan -- 06/02/2005, 10:32:49 -- #14431

Play chord notes or scale notes in quarters or dotted quarters.
sdm -- 06/02/2005, 13:00:55 -- #14441

My teacher tells me you can't do this without "really getting to know" the dotted quarter.
Scot -- 06/02/2005, 22:46:19 -- #14477

Your teacher is Randy Porter, right? Man, Randy has TIME down like no one else. Part of it is that dotted quarter thing... anyway, I won't go on, it's an entire discussion!
albetan -- 06/03/2005, 10:54:49 -- #14490

SOMETIMES in 3/4 tunes you may find polyrhythmic sections and then it's possible to use dotted quarters. The most natural walking here is in quarters, as your teacher suggests. As a rhythmic variation, SOMETIMES you may change ternary patterns by binary ones, as changing 3/4 by 6/8, walking then by dotted quarters..
albetan -- 06/06/2005, 22:05:24 -- #14694
Example of walking bass in waltz jazz
Hi sdm: I wrote an example of walking bass in 3/4 for you: Please download it from Files list. Enjoy it.
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sdm -- 06/07/2005, 11:55:01 -- #14715

I'll give it a shot, Albetan. I love your other exercises. Thanks!
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SolArt -- 06/13/2005, 08:06:16 -- #15039
Only 5%?
Matt, it seems to me putting only 5% of brainpower into the left hand is NOT ENOUGH for full L.H. styles where the bass & chords are mixed, indeed I personally find the left hand's part is much harder than the right's.
Neighbor -- 08/13/2005, 12:56:00 -- #17551

Hi & 7p It is neighbor, I'm taking jazz piano lessons again and my left hand stride is speeding up after a couple of months. Those old harlem ticklers like Fats and Willie the Lion had lobster hands- like my piano teacher tells me. It takes practice and coordination. I'll like to hear from you and all the cats again on the Left Hand Stride subject!
7 -- 08/13/2005, 13:25:44 -- #17558

There is a Stride room now, with many James P. Johnson midi files. He invented Stride, so it's a great place to check out. If you have the VanBasco player (FREE at http://www.VanBasco.com) you can listen to the midis being played while watching them on the onscreen virtual piano keyboard. Very educational! You've probably already read the following article, but here it is again for anyone who's interested. Left Hand Stride Piano Tenths An article dealing with 10ths in the left hand and their use in Jazz. Complete with MIDI audio examples. http://Jeff-Brent.com/Lessons/lh10ths.html PS: The "p" after people's names is a link to their profile. Click on it. 7
kennysims -- 08/31/2005, 14:05:43 -- #18365
weird ?
I don't think i even know how to ask this ?. when you play your 7th chords (F7 Bb7..) do you always start the right hand chord a 3rd from the bass note. i hope i asked that ? clearly...somebody get back with me on that plz. I've been a long time lover of jazz but i always want to be a pro at playing it. I figure if i can master jazz i can play anything. Kenny
Scot -- 09/01/2005, 13:55:54 -- #18393

You don't always start on the same interval for chords, however when you are starting out it's a good idea to take an idea like that and learn it in all keys. Once you have that, then start all your chords on the 7th and learn them that way. Then start on other intervals and learn them that way. When you do it like that your hands will remember the feeling of those chords. Go to the basics room and practice 2-5-1 scale exercise. That will really help you get going.
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shearer -- 09/20/2005, 07:57:12 -- #19227
Right hand chords...... (on the blues)
hey guys this sites gr8! thanxs to everyone whos envolved!!! im pretty new to jazz piano and i dont understand the chords the right hands playing over the walking bass lines (in the blues example above)...... i know alot about keys and scales etc i think my knowledge is lacking in piano chord voicings..... help me please!! if you can make sense of my message
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albetan -- 09/20/2005, 16:12:20 -- #19241

Hi Shearer: When you play walking bass with left, you may play A & B forms of voicings or quartal voicings with right. Please go to LJP search and write A & B Formsselecting files. Quartal voicingsselecting files
kennop2002 -- 01/04/2006, 17:53:57 -- #22750
i want to know jazz
please teach me how to play jazz
Kai -- 01/05/2006, 11:56:43 -- #22766

Follow the lessons on this site
Neighbor -- 01/07/2006, 17:33:01 -- #22885
I need help with a bass line from Eubie Blake's Classic or melodic Rag
Hi 7 or any one who can help me, with the bass riff that Eubie uses in his melodic or classic rag. I'll try to scatt it here it goes- Boooom' Booomm' bammmmm' Beammmm' beammmm' 7 I tried to transcribe it but it is a little rough. I tried to find the sheet music but I couldn't obtain it. Is it the 251 progression walking in tenths? Art Tatum uses this run-riff alot, also. Neighbor
7 -- 01/07/2006, 18:47:56 -- #22887

I've got a book that I bought back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth called "Sincerely Eubie Blake (transcribed by Terry Waldo)" On page 18 there is a tune called "Eubie's Classical Rag". Is that the one you're talking about?
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Neighbor -- 01/08/2006, 19:16:29 -- #22909
Yes it is 7
Yes it is 7, I was looking through the jazz lessons archives and I think the progression is the 16251? I want to learn that bass line riff in the beginning and I think it uses the tritone substitution 16251? By all means help me, but yes that is the tune Eubies Classical rag.
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7 -- 01/08/2006, 22:54:30 -- #22913

OK then... Go to the top of the page. You'll see a search box immediately to the right of "Search for books, cds, music:" Type into the search box Sincerely Eubie Blake (or even copy it from this message and paste it in). The very first search result from MusicNotes is exactly the same book I have. Click on that link and order it (that's an order! :) It's only $9.95 - such a deal! Let us know how it goes...
Neighbor -- 01/10/2006, 21:51:21 -- #23000
Thank You very much 7
I appreciate it alot. Ragtime music could also be intricate with the syncopation. In my own opinion it is a PRE-JAZZ MUSIC. Neighbor Thank Again 7 for the valuable information!
7 -- 01/11/2006, 01:43:46 -- #23003

Best of Luck & thx!
joriskattemolle -- 01/31/2006, 13:31:08 -- #23652
Scales
how do I know witch scale I use under a certain chord?
7 -- 01/31/2006, 15:19:12 -- #23654

First begin with the chord. Most chords in Jazz have five notes or more. While playing the chord in the left hand, play the notes of the chord in the right hand from bottom to top. Then play them from top to bottom while still playing the chord in your left hand. Now try playing the notes in between the chord tones. If they sound good, include them in your scale. If they sound bad, don't include them in your scale. Once you've found all your "good in-between notes", add them to your chord tones and that's your scale.
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nsendee -- 07/06/2006, 09:06:59 -- #28587

is walking bass the same as talking bass ?
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nsendee -- 07/06/2006, 09:14:14 -- #28591

help me translate this to solfas
Carson -- 10/07/2006, 16:03:57 -- #30338
how to play comp chords with walking bass
hello everyone. i play the keyboard for a church and i'd like to play walking bass sometimes but i just don't know how to play comp chords with Rhythm around the walking bass. so if come one can be kind enough to show me a few examples i'd greafull. Carson.
7 -- 10/08/2006, 10:55:58 -- #30358

Think of your RH as rhythm guitar. Try to imagine what a guitarist would do in the situation. Very often tastefully placed hits on the upbeats in the regions around beat 2 and beat 4 will add rhythmic propulsion while not cluttering the arrangement.
BQua -- 10/24/2006, 14:23:07 -- #30667
Ps Send Me Some
Walking baseline! What a skill. I'd like to do that too. Teach me how to do that on my own. Thank you. .......BQua
Scot -- 10/24/2006, 15:09:12 -- #30671

You need to teach yourself. Practice the bass lines above in all keys. You'll learn a lot that way.
mikedavis0923 -- 08/16/2007, 13:35:49 -- #36409

too difficult to sole while left hand works walking bass line...what do you think?
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westsideshay -- 08/20/2007, 18:00:15 -- #36477
Lookin for very basics of beginning to learn walking bass lines
I have been away from piano, but still want to learn basics of walking bass lines. Can you jelp, please. Thanks.
pink_liquorice -- 10/31/2007, 12:06:45 -- #38164
Possibilities for RH with walking bass
Can we view it like the melody has gone to the LH (LH now playing melody)? If so, can we still solo with the RH? Is it possible to have a tasteful RH solo over a LH walking bass? I tried but it sounds horrible. Maybe I'm not picking good RH notes to match up with the walking LH bass. Any tips on soloing with RH over a walking bass? And how do we practise that? That would be tough like someone said isn't it, it's like trying to play 2 melodies at once. Any advice on how to practice? -__-"
ksley -- 06/24/2008, 01:50:06 -- #41752
fingering problems
how can I know the right fingerings to use when playing my melodies or scales to any chord......
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