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Whacky -- 01/29/2004, 19:35:27 -- #1075433726
Free drinks?
Just stopped by to say hello...I heard you were servin up free drinks:)

Scot -- 01/29/2004, 19:38:29 -- #1075433909
Yesh he ish! (hic) I have been partucking of the rather luminous libations to be had at this establishment for quite some time now and just want to say... (hic)  Jusht want to shay, um... Maybe, I should get back to you on that.

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Barry -- 02/02/2004, 13:56:42 -- #1075759001
The Bar is open!
Welcome one and all!!

I thought now might be a good time to outline what I want to do in this room over the next few weeks.  I thought it might be nice to do a little something for all you beginners out there so I have just uploaded a file on harmonising a major scale.  This will teach you how to build a family of chords from a single major scale so you can work out what chords belong in any given key.

The next article will deal with key changes and how you can recognise and understand them harmonically.

For now, I hope you find the file useful and I will be happy to answer any questions you may want to ask in this room.  I would appreciate any feedback about the articles I post - whether it's to say 'I found this useful' or 'I think you could have explained this better'.  

Happy Harmonic Happenings

Barry

PS. 7, 'This file sucks'  is not the kind of feedback I'm after! ;-)

Scot -- 02/02/2004, 14:04:07 -- #1075759447
Nice file, Barry!  Thanks for making it.  Would you like me to turn it into a PDF instead of a DOC file?  It might be easier for some people to view it since DOC might not work on all operating systems.

smg -- 02/02/2004, 14:44:16 -- #1075761856
Nice,Barry
Well done..very clear and easy read.....BTW I re-formatted my article if you want to check it out(File download "360")-the posts of it I did last week hopefully will be deleted from the room soon....

Barry -- 02/03/2004, 00:10:26 -- #1075795822
Scot, that would be great - I haven't got the facility to make PDF's but it will mean more people can read it.

Thank SMG, I'll check the revamped version out.

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smg -- 02/03/2004, 06:17:00 -- #1075817820
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It's microsoft word....let me know what's up re-this..

7 -- 02/09/2004, 10:09:20 -- #1076350159
Barry, sorry I missed your pchat. Would've loved to have hung a bit.

I was writing a longish post and the system logged me out and then when I got back in, you were gone.

7

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Whacky -- 02/09/2004, 12:23:03 -- #1076358183
that's happened to me a couple of times...if I'm going to write a lengthy post (even though I don't do it that often:) I'll write it in Notepad then copy & paste it...I too lost a really long and obnoxious "introduction" ....:)  but, I also believe "everything happens for a reason" so I'm content that my obnoxious post evaporated into cyberspace:)

I am one with the universe   yahmmi yahmmi...

Scot -- 02/09/2004, 15:41:28 -- #1076370088
Hmmm, I thought I fixed that.  So you are simply posting a long message and then it times you out when you try to save it?  Does it happen in the forum area or hte room area or both?  At the same time, maybe I should just make the timeout longer or something. Ideas?

jmjelder -- 02/09/2004, 20:17:03 -- #1076386623
The Aebersold Jazz Books new site had a similar problem, a too short period before timing out.  They fixed it by either eliminating or just lengthening the time. I just use Word to figure out a long post and copy it over.  It makes it easier all around.

Joe

Barry -- 10/12/2004, 02:03:47 -- #7952
Desert Island Discs...
The idea for this thread came from something Scot said in the Lobby Lounge and I thought it would make for a good discussion...

What would be the five records you would take if you were to be marooned on a desert island?  I know there's so many to choose from but if you had to pick them, what would they be?

I'll have to have a think about mine but will post them shortly.  I look forward to reading your lists.

Barry.

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7 -- 10/12/2004, 09:00:16 -- #7958
I actually WAS marooned on a desert island for three years!

I didn't take any CDs with me, but I did take my Sax.

That was time well spent shedding...

Whacky -- 10/12/2004, 14:05:19 -- #7970
I was marooned in the back seat of a bus in Germany (well actually I was pickled), but only for a night:)

Great question!  I'll give it some thought too:)

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sid -- 10/13/2004, 02:24:50 -- #7983
Living where I do is like being on a desert island...
1. Dogtown blues (Bob Crosby)
2. String quartet #5 (Bela Bartok)
3. Thanks to you (Boz Scaggs)
4. Jamaica (George Benson)
5. Night train (Oscar Peterson)

But tomorrow it'll be 5 completely different tracks.

sid

Scot -- 10/13/2004, 16:53:39 -- #8008
1. Monty Alexander: Montreaux Alexander, live at the Montreaux Jazz Festival 1997

2. McCoy Tyner: Live at the Musicians Exchange

3. Chick Corea: Friends

4. Monty Alexander: Friday Night (simply amazing)

5. Appasionado: Stan Getz, produced/arranged by Herb Alpert

Five CD's is awfully hard... 10 is easier :)

sid -- 10/14/2004, 00:50:34 -- #8017
I interpreted Barry's challenge to mean 5 tracks rather than 5 albums (that's the Desert Island Discs format on BBC radio, except it's 8 tracks).

Anyway, today I've decided I don't like yesterday's choices any more, so can I replace them with:

1. Mr Jelly Lord (Morton)
2. Sea interludes from Billy Budd (Benjamin Britten)
3. Another world (Joe Jackson)
4. Guess who I saw today (Carmen McRae)
5. Who does she want to be (Sonny Sharrock)

sid

Barry -- 10/14/2004, 18:26:03 -- #8051
I'm kind of like Sid, I'm sure my list changes every day but at the moment it's (in no particular order)....

1. Badlands - Peter Erskine

Superb, spacious and evocative trio album with Alan Pasqua on the keys.  Erskine considers this to be some of the best music he's ever made....

2.  Sweet Soul - Peter Erskine

Another Erskine album but a completely different line up.  Kenny Werner on piano.  I've written about this album before so have a look at the old messages in this room to find out more.

3.  Feeling The Spirit - Grant Green

A whole album of spirituals played impeccably.  A young Herbie Hancock on piano is in superb form and grooves as only he can whilst playing solos that perfectly complement Grant Green's direct approach.  For me, this is some of Herbie's greatest playing on record.

4.  Good Morning Suzie Soho - Esbjorn Svennson Trio (EST)

Creative and original, EST are one of the most exciting groups in modern jazz.  This is my favourite of their albums and is full of great original tunes.  Highly recommended.

5.  Songs in the key of life - Stevie Wonder

For my money, one of the greatest pop records ever made.  Stevie Wonder is one of the few pop musicians who I can listen to and enjoy as much as jazz. The man is  a genius. 'Nuff Said.

So how can I have a top five with no Miles, no Coltrane, no Louis, no Jarrett?  Hmmm, maybe I should have made it a top five hundred.... ;-)

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Barry -- 10/14/2004, 18:30:12 -- #8052
New Article
About a hundred years ago, I threatened to post an article on Dominant Sevenths and being able to recognise key changes in standards.  I forgot all about this file until I found a half-written version in a dusty corner of my hard disk.

Anyway, it's now finished and available in the files section of this room.  It really follows on from the first article about harmonising a major scale so beginners should start with that one first.  I have also uploaded a PDF version of that first article as well.

I hope that some of you find this useful and would be grateful if you could give me some feedback and let me know what you think of both articles.

Enjoy.

Barry

Whacky -- 10/14/2004, 21:58:08 -- #8057
I'm with ya on the Stevie Wonder thing!  (Overjoyed & Do I Do are my two all time favorites)

I listened to a lot of Chicago in the early years and that stuff still makes me go ooh ahh...(Albums 1-7)

Also The Yellowjackets...espcially the stuff with Marc Russo...(nothin against Bob Mintzer of course)

Sarah Vaughn "How Long Has This Been Goin On?"

Oscar Peterson "The Newport Years"

Bill Evans "You Must Believe In Spring"

to name a few albums at the moment...and there are many others

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Scot -- 10/15/2004, 15:41:41 -- #8075
Yeah, nothin' against Bob Mintzer, but the Yellowjackets really started sucking for some reason after he joined... but nothing against Bob Mintzer, of course :)

Whacky -- 10/15/2004, 21:53:14 -- #8083
hmmm...I wouldn't say they started sucking, but for whatever reason(s) the newer stuff isn't as interesting to me...(same with Chicago:) Sometimes there is just a chemistry between folks that cannot be explained...

I wasn't even a fan at all until a friend of mine took me to a concert with Russel Ferante, Jimmy Haslip, Marc Russo and William Kennedy...I was blown away...

john1965 -- 02/23/2005, 07:36:31 -- #11498
Fake books
I have really enjoyed all your advice but just wanted to ask how to tackle a lead sheet when playing from a fake book. I find there are so many chord changes I get lost. Can you give some examples of how you would tackle a common jazz standard like 'Fly me to the Moon' playing from a lead sheet, improvising over it using scales etc? It would be great to see how to put all the theory into practise. I don't fully understand how when sometimes there are so many chords in quick succession  and modulations that you can change between scales so quickly according to the chords. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks..

JidaigekiBoy -- 03/26/2005, 09:01:09 -- #12217
Analyzing key changes using Dominant 7ths
Barry, your article about how to identify modulations is excellent and should be a must for all beginning jazzers.  Identifying key changes is not all that hard but takes time (too much time to do it on the fly) if you do it the way I used to -- a trial and error approach by taking the tune one chord at a time and guessing.  Your suggestion of using dominant 7ths as the starting point is brilliant.

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Barry -- 03/26/2005, 13:45:36 -- #12221
Hey JidaigekiBoy

Thanks very much for your feedback.  It's really gratifying to know that you found my article useful.  With over 500 downloads of my articles, this is the first bit of feedback that I've had so I'm glad it was positive!

You may have just inspired to write a few more because I haven't posted much in this room recently....

Thanks again and good luck with it all.

JidaigekiBoy -- 03/26/2005, 21:25:33 -- #12232

Glad to hear you have more on the way.  I'll be looking for them.  I just finished analyzing All the Things You Are by looking for the Dom. 7s.  It is so simple but no one ever told me about it before.

It took me only a minute or two to have all the modulations mapped out.  That's nice because there are a couple of changes that I sort of groped through because I wasn't sure of the best key, and didn't have the time to try to figure it out.  

People say it is a simple tune, but that is only true if you know what key to play in!

JGB

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Lambone -- 07/07/2005, 23:40:13 -- #16279
Thanks for those files!
Thanks a million! Im gonna have fun with the Coltrane file... 144 pages!!!

I have the Bill Evans Fake Book in pdf let me know if you want me to send it to you

femi -- 02/12/2007, 08:34:20 -- #32977
hi lambone
hi lambone i was just reading the comments u posted when u mentioned about the bill evans and coltrane files im interested i dont know if u can send to me my email adress is engrfemi_adebayo@yahoo.com i will be grateful if u could send it
thanks

sid -- 02/23/2007, 15:16:54 -- #33296
Hello Barry - thanks for your greeting on the Guild page.  Am I right in thinking you're now located in the North East?  I'd planned to seek out your band in the old Essex days on one of my visits down there.  If you appear in public up North, maybe I'll catch up with you on my way through one of these days.

Best

sid

Barry -- 02/25/2007, 16:26:00 -- #33327
Hey Sid, you're welcome.  I'm in the North-West now, not far from Liverpool.  If you're ever up this way, please don't hesitate to get in touch - it would be cool to meet in person.

Barry

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Scot -- 05/05/2007, 11:08:13 -- #34892
I was just wondering if Barry was still around :)

jazzizme -- 05/16/2007, 07:34:16 -- #35090
The first file was pretty good....for some reason I was unable to access the other two.

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