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albetan -- 01/31/2004, 16:36:11 -- #1075595771
Welcome
Thanks to Scot for this Area.
I’m very glad to do contributions about my own experiences in music in LJP, my preferred web site that I discovered in October 2003.
I will follow participating in threads and posts and discussions in other Rooms.
Im a jazz lover as most of you, and every day I enter here finding always new thoughts and tips for being a better musician and for enjoying more and more jazz piano.
Here a great lot of pro musicians and advanced students around the world are ready to answer all kind of questions and to share knowledge and experiences with everybody.
That’s wonderful and a great Scot´s contribution to jazz world.
Welcome to Albetan´s Area.

albetan -- 01/31/2004, 20:14:47 -- #1075608886
JAZZ KINDER
A great deal of our visitors are beginners. In many forums and threads they are asking how to begin, to practice, to learn, to improvise.
You will learn to improvise following three easy steps:

STEP 1. MELODY
Play a Seventh or a minor seventh chord, as C7 or Cm7 with left hand.
With right you may create melodies touching only notes of chord.
Don´t worry about rhythm in this first step. You are learning to create your own melodies. Play chords freely with left hand.
When you are playing phrases fluently, then use chord notes as pilots of a bridge. You may take any no-chord note as passing sounds. You have twelve different sounds between an octave. Now your melodies are sounding more jazzy!
Don´t worry about what scales are you using.... let it to critics... They will analyse if your scales are dorian or mixolidian or bebop, or pentatonic, or altered, or chromatic... You are creating your own phrases freely, no thinking in theories... let it to musicologists and teachers.
Don´t overload your phrases with many foreign notes... use it sparingly.
Elegance is in simplicity.
Touch keys as if you were looking for chord notes... In that search you are doing music!
Only knowing a chord you are sounding jazzy!.
Practice a lot over all seventh and minor seventh chords and you will have a degree in FIRST STEP.

STEP 2. RHYTHM
Play a march rhythm with left hand .
First jazz pieces were marches, as “When the Saints go” “Mack the knife” New Orleans hits, Armstrong hits...
Mark a steady four beats rhythm so:
1.bass, 2. chord notes, 3. bass, 4. chord notes. OM–PA-OM-PA.
Do it as walking or marching, and it helps a lot to mark pulses with foot. So you are connecting with subconscious... Rhythm is a natural function of subconscious.
Feel rhythm while playing... don´t think in it... don´t count anything... just feel it.
Improvise melodies as in STEP 1, but adding rhythm.
Now your music sounds richer.
If you play only in quarters... you are sounding as ancient European marches or little soldiers pieces... play eighth notes and your music is more happy.
Now experiment with syncope.
Each beat has two parts : Downbeat, upbeat.
Play a note in upbeat, supporting it over the next downbeat. In sheet music it appears as an eight-note slurred to next quarter or eight.
Now your music is more excitant... Syncopation is one of main characteristics of jazz.
Great musicians kidding as you over a simple chord have composed famous standards as Coltrane´s “Impressions” or Miles´ “So what”
Now you are playing real jazz and you are graduated in SECOND STEP. You may do free improvisation with a march rhythm. Congratulations!

STEP 3. PROGRESSIONS
Play a diatonic scale:
C D E F G A B C.
Build a 4 note chord over the second note of scale: D F A C.
Call this chord II, in roman numerals.
Build other 4 note chord over the five note of scale: G B D F. Call this chord V.
Build a 4 note chord over the first note of scale: C E G B. Call this chord I.
Practice improvisation in / II V / I - / in all keys.
When you get dominion in this progression, you may jump to any other key while playing, and so you are sounding as a “pro”... no more as a beginner.
Once Duke Ellington was kidding with first bar of this progression:
/ Dm7 G7 / Dm7 G7 / Em7 A7 / Em7 A7 /
/ Am7 D7 / Abm7 Db7 / CM7
Try to improvise something, as did Duke, over this progression...
So Ellington composed his famous “Satin doll”.
Now you have finished THIRD STEP of JAZZ KINDER.... You are really playing progressive jazz!
Your family and your friends are your fans and their think that you are a great jazz player!
Now you will enjoy this web site and as a partner of www.learnjazzpiano.com you may go to “lesson pages” in order to advance a lot in jazz learning.
Good luck and enjoy jazz.

albetan -- 02/01/2004, 07:38:32 -- #1075649911
MUSICAL PERCEPTION

Each individual perceives music in a different way.

LINEAR PERCEPTION:
When one perceives a melody in a first plane and the rest of elements as a background... Most of people works in that way...
Some people hear superior line in first  plane (violinists, flutists, singers....)
Other people hear in first plane intermediate lines, as trombonists, violists, hornists, cellists....
A few people hear in first plane the bass line as bassists, contrabassoons, cellists, sax baritone, tuba...
All these people perceive musical lines in a horizontal way.
Linear perception is the most natural and common perception of music and is good for singers and for melodic and contrapuntal instruments.

RHYTHMIC PERCEPTION:
When one hear rhythm section in first plane and the rest of orchestra as a background. All drummers, and percussionists, and many guitar and piano players have this kind of musical perception.
You may develop a rhythmic perception hearing recordings and following rhythm beats touching with left over a table, closed eyes, as if you were the drum player and marking pulses with foot.
Remember than rhythm is the primary element of music… You must to develop a sense of rhythm to be a good musician.
You must feel rhythm… no thinking in it. Rhythm is a function of subconscious.
A good pianist must have rhythmic perception of music.

HARMONIC PERCEPTION:
When one hear chord progressions in first plane, as many guitarists, bassists and pianists.
You may develop a harmonic perception hearing recordings and writing chord progressions. It’s not easy…  Take only a phrase or a theme of a song until you find correct harmony.
A good pianist must have harmonic perception.


STRUCTURAL PERCEPTION:
When one perceives music in a vertical way...
So do pianists, organists, arrangers, orchestral conductors....
This people have an open mind to catch everything simultaneously as a complete structure.
You may develop structural perception hearing orchestra or big band recordings and following everything, closed eyes, as if you were the conductor.  Pay attention to singer, contrapuntal instruments, melodies, brakes, fill-ins, harmonic background, bass, guitar, piano, drums, effects and everything, as if you were the conductor.
A few persons have this structural perception of music in a natural way. May be you must do an effort to develop it.
The best pianists have a structural perception  of music.

This point of view of musical perception is interesting to understand why a guy likes to play bassoon or viola or timbal or maracas or tuba or a pipe organ or piano or the baton of a symphonic orchestra.
Sometimes I tried to teach  piano to a good melodic musician (violin, flute, trumpet, sax...) and I didn’t have success. Why? Now you have a response.
I’m speaking about spontaneous and natural ways of musical perception.
A guy with linear perception may educate himself to get a structural, or harmonic, or rhythmic perception, but doing a great effort.

All that thoughts are of my own observation and experience over a lot of years playing with musicians and teaching music.
Enjoy music and develop  your musical perception in order to be a great pianist.

ALBERTO BETANCOURT
(albetan)

albetan -- 02/01/2004, 15:57:07 -- #1075679827
THE CLASSICAL & JAZZ MUSICIAN
The classical musician is a communication medium between a genius in past and an audience in present.
When you play a Bach’s piece, you must do it the most exactly to Bach’s score... and so you are transmitting Bach’s moods and feelings... and you feel the satisfaction of being that communication medium from Bach in the past to audience in present.
The classical pianist develops a powerful memory and must remember all notes and dynamics and expression of score for an exact interpretation.

The jazz musician is a spontaneous creator.
When you play an original theme or a jazz standard, you are completely free in interpretation... in voicing... in rhythm... in style... and when you improvise, you are creating music spontaneously.

The same piece played by the same jazz musician never sounds identical... because each time is a new creation. Sometime Art Tatum before one of his first recordings said that his jazz pieces were converted into current pieces because they sounded equal each time.

The jazz pianist memorizes only a melodic line and a chord progression.... when is playing uses all the arsenal of elements in subconscious for creating music.
When you play jazz, you are transmitting your original moods and feelings to audience.

If you play a Bach’s theme in jazz, you are not interpreting Bach music… you are doing jazz over a Bach’s theme.  So you may do a chord progression, a walking bass, rhythmic chords with left, and the original melody with right. You are creating something inspired in Bach’s music.

ALBERTO BETANCOURT
(albetan)

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albetan -- 02/01/2004, 16:37:14 -- #1075682233
THE CLASSICAL & JAZZ HARMONY
In forum about The Classical & The Jazz Musician we considered the basic differences between them. Now we will analyze the basic differences between classical and jazz harmony. These two forums may help those guys trained in classical piano  that like to start in the jazz world.

Classical harmony is based on chord triads over the grades of the diatonic scale. Classical harmony is diatonic.
Any note out of a triad is considered as a “dissonance” that must resolve to a consonance. So in a C chord: a 6, 7, 9, 11, 13 are dissonances because they are out of triad. Dissonances are solved by descending.

In jazz harmony 6, 7, 9, 11, 13, #5, b5, #9, b9, #11, b13 may be considered as elements of a chord. In jazz harmony there are not dissonances.... there are tension chords, extended chords.
Jazz harmony is diatonic and chromatic. Besides chords based in the grades of the diatonic scale, it employs other chords thanks to progressions and the use of substitute and ornamental chords.

In classical harmony the notes in strong beats always must be chord notes, with some exceptions as apoggiatura or ritardo that form dissonances that must be resolved descending.

In jazz harmony any note out of chord may be considered as an element of the same, so as F# in C7 chord. Seemingly F# is out of C7 chord, but it may be considered as #11, and so You have a C9+11 chord, or an extended C7 chord. In this case we have a tension chord, but not a dissonance.

You will find a nice exercise over extended chords and arpeggios to practice in all keys at
“lesson pages” “Contributors” “Alberto.” “Extended chords”.
http://www.learnjazzpiano.com/contributions/alberto_betancourt/extended_chords_and_arpeggios.pdf

Let´s use this easy formula for dominion of all extended chords and arpeggios in all keys:

MAYOR: IM7 II7
SEVENTH: I7 II7
MINOR SEVENTH: Im7 IIm7
HALF-DINISHED: Im7b5 IIbM7

These exercises open your hearing perception and let you enter in superior harmonic planes.

ALBERTO BETANCOURT
(albetan)

Rick -- 02/02/2004, 03:53:47 -- #1075722826
excuse my ignorance, but what is "Jazz Kinder"? my german tells me that means Jazz Children...cool

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albetan -- 02/02/2004, 06:52:53 -- #1075733573
what's jazz kinder?
Hi Rick:
Kinder is the beginning of education for children. I mean "jazz kinder" the beginning of jazz learning.
Good luck and enjoy jazz learning.
ALBERTO

Rick -- 02/02/2004, 08:26:54 -- #1075739214
I see! thanks Alberto

albetan -- 02/02/2004, 09:55:23 -- #1075744523
Kinder?
Rick: In Colombia we use the word "kinder" as a contraction of  "kindergarden"... and we refer to first years of school for children.

albetan -- 02/02/2004, 09:55:23 -- #1075744523
Kinder?
Rick: In Colombia we use the word "kinder" as a contraction of  "kindergarden"... and we refer to first years of school for children.

Herbie Hancock CD: Head Hunters Chameleon- Need I say more?
albetan -- 02/04/2004, 20:40:56 -- #1075956054
THE SUBCONSCIOUS IN MUSIC
THE SUBCONSCIOUS IN MUSIC

Inside us there is a powerful computer, the subconscious, that control our biological timer, all our rhythmic processes, as cardiac rhythm, how to breathe, how to walk, how to drive a car... and everything ... if your subconscious stop working, your family must call the funeral services.

That great computer of subconscious is fabulous for music. Somebody has talent for music when his subconscious outcrops. Some people without studies of music can play easy an instrument, and other people graduated in a school of music, can’t play an instrument at stage... They are musicologists with all musical concepts, definitions, theories and rules in their heads, but they are not musicians. They have all musical knowledge in their conscious mind but they can not use their subconscious computer when they try to play piano.

When somebody without musical knowledge, notice an error in a song, immediately tells us that something is bad... Why?  Everything you have heard and seen in your life is saved in your subconscious mind, as a file in a hard disk.

I have known many people that play by ear, and sometimes in a high level, as a professional musician, without any study of music...  It is possible by outcropping of subconscious while playing. When that kind of people is playing piano, they look for correct sounds touching the keys until they find the exact notes in the keyboard, so in melody, so in chords, so in bass, and so  in rhythm....

They suppose that all songs are in the keyboard and their work is to extract songs from keys!!!   They have the privilege of connecting conscious mind with subconscious mind while playing in a spontaneous way and unknowing it.

A blind musician develops a wonderful ability in an instrument, thanks to his spontaneous connection between conscious and subconscious.

Some guys need drugs or alcohol for playing... Why? They find that with those dangerous elements they play better and without inhibitions...  And why?... because their conscious is asleep and subconscious is working at a high level. But all you know how many famous guys in jazz and rock are dead by excess of those terrific tools.

You are as an  enterprise. The manager is your conscious mind that thinks and decides. The maintenance engineer is your subconscious that always obeys to the manager, and is responsible for perfect functioning of everything. That engineer may be an excellent musician, but for getting it, must be free of manager’s orders....  or must have a great connection with the manager.

So as minus you think while playing your music is better, easiest, and more relaxed and expressive...  When you think a lot while playing, you transmit stress to audience because you are stressed...  When you enjoy your music you transmit feelings and the audience enjoys your music.

Program all music fundamentals in your subconscious, as you do with your computer.  How? Very easy... Subconscious receives orders and obeys.

Example:  how read music at sight?
Imagine the central C note in stave... with closed eyes... imagine the five lines of a stave... in a little auxiliary line downwards you imagine a note... then write the name  C.... Do it for a moment taking a mental photo and order so to subconscious: "always when I see this note... I will touch this key"... and, opening eyes touch the central C in your keyboard....  And do the same with the rest of notes...  in a few minutes you have all notes programmed in subconscious. Then you have created a series of conditioned reflexes.... Always you see a note at stave, you touch the corresponding key automatically, and no reading, no thinking about notes... you are playing at sight very easy thanks to your subconscious.

When you practice and practice scales or arpeggios or chords... until you do it o.k. without thinking... then you have all those elements in your subconscious.

How program a song in your subconscious?... Easy...  play only a phrase many times... First seeing staves and keys, afterwards seeing only keys, and finally with closed eyes... until you do it without thinking absolutely in its elements, as melody notes, chords, rhythm,.... playing mechanically... no seeing  sheet nor keys... then that phrase is in subconscious..

Learn the next phrase in the same way... and so you have the first theme of the song.  Play many times the complete theme until you master it.... and when you play it without thinking in it; you have it in your subconscious.

Most people uses only conscious memory. That is as the RAM memory of your computer...  You must study your repertoire each day or it will be forgotten...  as things that are in RAM memory when computer is off! But if you save your repertoire in subconscious memory, it will be sure for ever as in a hard disk.

Read the life of geniuses:  Mozart at 4 or 5 years old composed pieces that a trained musician can’t do.

Debussy did not pass the Harmony final test in the conservatory!!!!!!  In those times He was the first musician playing whole tone scale

albetan -- 02/04/2004, 20:45:05 -- #1075956305
THE SUBCONSCIOUS IN MUSIC (cont.)
Debussy did not pass the Harmony final test in the conservatory!!!!!!  In those times He was the first musician playing whole tone scales, ninth, eleventh and thirteenth chords, quartal voicing, rootless chords, arpeggios over extended chords…

When Verdi was in the audition for beginning at Conservatory, the eminent teachers pushed him away for no talent for music!!!!  ...

Once The great Bach went to concourse for an employment as organist in a church and did a fantastic improvisation....  He did not win that employment... but when he returned to home transcribed it in paper and was his famous FANTASY AND FUGE IN G MINOR, one of the greatest works for organ.

All that geniuses had a very powerful subconscious mind!!!!
Be a friend of your subconscious, speak with him, and program in it all music elements, and all repertoire and you will be a great musician..

ALBERTO BETANCOURT

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albetan -- 02/06/2004, 14:53:58 -- #1076108038
The subconscious in music
Please read first post (632) and afterwards post (633).

miles2678 -- 02/10/2004, 03:39:40 -- #1076413177
well you needn't
When playing Well You Needn't I am stuck in playing eighths for the first eight bars (F6 and Gb6). Further on in the piece I may play various rhythmic patterns on these chords for variation. Also on Gb6 I find that the in-sen pentatonic   scale sounds pretty good and gives an oriental feeling on the piece especially when played slow and with excessive use of the sustain pedal. The notes I use for this scale are (C, Csharp, F, Fsharp, Bb). Most will say that this is not even the correct in-sen scale to play for this chord but since I play eighths it allows me to use different scales and still sound good (at least to me). I use a percussive way of playing on my left hand for this piece. However because I  really enjoy playing this tune, I may go on and on and as you can understand it starts sounding quite boring after a while using only eighths on my left. Sometimes I use fourths as well and that's about it. What else can I do so that the piece can be a little richer when playing solo? I tried to upload a midi file but the program I used to transform the tune from a wav file to a midi file really f..ked it up. It would be nice if you can also tell me of what you think for the way I told  you I am playing the tune.

Cheers

Chris

albetan -- 02/10/2004, 07:01:04 -- #1076425264
To Chris:
Chris:
Sorry! I don’t have that song you mention.
That oriental scale sounds cool.  When you are improvising do it freely, looking for chord notes and passing over any notes creating your own scales.
If you use quartal voicings in left you are completely free to work with 12 sounds of chromatic scale.
You never will convert a .wav file into a .mid file because they are two different things.
Record a song in a sequencer and when finish, “save as” and search “midi file”. Very easy.  So you have your song in a midi file.

albetan -- 02/10/2004, 07:12:31 -- #1076425951
"well you needn't " chart
Clicking upwards in "Vanilla Real Book" you will find chord chart for "well you needn't".

Herbie Hancock CD: Head Hunters Chameleon- Need I say more?
rtackett -- 02/11/2004, 16:54:03 -- #1076547243
RE: Jazz Kinder
Thank you for inviting me to try this room. I hav already tried a few of the suggestions in your post #416 and have found them to be very helpful as well as a lot of fun.

sublima -- 09/20/2004, 10:51:08 -- #7294
melodic minor
what does do with a song like my funny valentine.  I guess really i'm looking for answers for the melodic minor scale.  Possibilmities, ....
thanks
sublima

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sublima -- 09/20/2004, 10:51:48 -- #7295
melodic minor
what does one do with a song like 'my funny valentine'.  I guess really i'm looking for answers for the melodic minor scale.  Possibilities, ....
thanks
sublima

albetan -- 09/20/2004, 21:17:33 -- #7309
My Funny Valentine
Sublima:
You may do nice phrases over Cm , working with intervals.
In My Funny Valentine
http://mapage.noos.fr/realbook/RB/My%20Funny%20Valentine.jpg
you have a Cm progression:
\\ Cm(8) - - - \\ Cm#7 - - - \\ Cm7 - - - | Cm6 - - - \\
Create a melody over chord notes... using sometimes passing notes.
See file "Beginning improvisation"
Also you may work with Eb pentatonic.
See file "Beginning pentatonics".

sublima -- 09/21/2004, 08:25:37 -- #7322
valentine
thank you

marsin -- 09/22/2004, 08:47:14 -- #7350
Great!
Thank you so much for giving us the ABC to become good jazz players! I really appreciate all this work!

Herbie Hancock CD: Head Hunters Chameleon- Need I say more?
albetan -- 09/22/2004, 09:12:12 -- #7351
Thanks, Marsin.

C3002 -- 09/24/2004, 02:11:23 -- #7399
Chopin Arpeggio's
Hi, Albetan,
I'm very pleased with all your postings, gives me some additional material to think and exercise about.
There is one slight problem: your technique-file about Chopin and arpeggio's seems to be empty, at least I cann't read anything.
Could you upload it again,please ?

Regards, C3002

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albetan -- 09/24/2004, 06:03:42 -- #7405
C3002:
I uploaded it for you here at Albetan's.

C3002 -- 09/27/2004, 06:32:03 -- #7473
Chopin's Arpeggio's
Albetan,
much obliged, unfortunately I still can not read it. Have you by any chance used a special formatting ?
Could you review the original, uploaded file ?

Thanks in advance

albetan -- 09/27/2004, 06:43:48 -- #7474
Do you have Acrobat reader or Adobe reader?. You may download last version for free from
www.adobe.com
My lessons are in pdf format. When you download it you must wait for some seconds while it appears.
Good luck and tell me...

ragazzo -- 09/27/2004, 09:18:13 -- #7482
Muchas gracias
Hey Albetan,
muchas gracias por este gran aporte que haces a toda la gente como yo interesada en conocer siempre cosas nuevas del jazz y del latin jazz. Descubrí este site por casualidad y no hay momento en que pueda despegarme de aquí. Me estoy iniciando en esto del jazz y ahora no quiero dejarlo ni por un momento. Es una gran iniciativa no sólo de tu parte sino también de todos los colaboradores de este espacio. Te agradezco además que compartas con nosotros todos tus conocimientos.

Se despide por los momentos un nuevo fanático de esta área,
ragazzo

PD: escribiré en inglés de ahora en adelante, si no tienes problema. Saludos desde Caracas-Venezuela

Herbie Hancock CD: Head Hunters Chameleon- Need I say more?
albetan -- 09/27/2004, 16:40:49 -- #7495
Bienvenido Ragazzo:
Me alegra que estés aprovechando este magnífico sitio web...
Aquí encuentras una sección en "rooms" que es "Jazz en Español"...

C3002 -- 09/28/2004, 03:25:05 -- #7509
Chopin´s Arpeggios
Hi, Albetan,
I´m using Acrobat Reader, version 6.
Strange as it sounds, I can read your latest contribution (Subconscious), which is also in PDF, and also all of your other contributionds, but not the Chopin bit.
Even after a few minutes of waiting I get the message: Done and an empty screen ...
So I suspect there is something with the formatting ??? Could you reproduce the file again and then replace the current one with a new version ?

Thanks in advance ...

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Akram Maximos -- 09/28/2004, 03:34:18 -- #7510
Yes C3002 is write.  The current file does NOT open.  The file has an empty screen at its "Done" mode.

albetan -- 09/28/2004, 08:22:31 -- #7517
Chopin arpeggios for jazz
For people who found bugs in this file i uploaded again in a new format.
Good luck and enjoy Chopin's arpeggios for jazz.

C3002 -- 09/29/2004, 07:45:26 -- #7552
Updated Chopin ?
Hi, Albetan,
I hardly dare say anything, but I still can not open the updated version for Chopin´s Arpeggio´s, both in the personal room and the Techniques and Exercises.
Strangely enough, e.g. the Mastering Pentatonics file is recognized and  opened without any hesitation...

ClosetBlues -- 09/29/2004, 12:01:02 -- #7563
Try right-clicking on the link and select "save as".  Save it to your hard drive and then open the file.

Herbie Hancock CD: Head Hunters Chameleon- Need I say more?
albetan -- 09/29/2004, 13:24:52 -- #7565
C3002: Chopin don't like that you open that file!!!!!!. I converted it from Finale to pdf... and it functions for me and for other guys.
I don't understand what's happening with your system. Try suggestion by ClosetBlues.

Thanks ClosetBlues  for your suggestion. I tested it and it worked.

albetan -- 09/29/2004, 14:32:38 -- #7566
C3002:
Please tell me if if you could open file following ClosetBlues' suggestion.

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C3002 -- 10/01/2004, 01:25:56 -- #7617
Chopin in the rebound
Albetan,
indeed the right-click, Save As trick did the work: I´ve saved the file and could now open and read it. Interesting stuff, and thanks very much !

C3002

albetan -- 10/01/2004, 08:02:45 -- #7624
I'm glad because you could open the file, thanks to ClosetBlues suggestion.

rafa -- 10/01/2004, 09:06:20 -- #7625
cuartas
Hola Albetan, soy Rafa desde Barcelona,(puedo escribir en inglés si te va mejor).
La cuestion es que estoy interesado en el estilo de MCcoy Tyner y sus voicings por cuartas pero aquí no hay nada de material.A ver si puedes aconsejarme algo.¿no hay ninguna transcripción de Resolution de Coltrane o My favourites things?.
Muchas gracias por tu atención y enhorabuena por tu sección.
Rafa.

albetan -- 10/01/2004, 14:05:52 -- #7635
Quartals
Hi Rafa:
If you are interested in quartals, please study file "Quartal voicings for piano". Also visit  room "Quartals" here in LJP.

You will find a good stuff for jazz perfomance at:
http://mapage.noos.fr/realbook/index_accueil.htm
There is "My favorite things".

You may write to me in spanish in "Jazz en español".
Good luck.

Herbie Hancock CD: Head Hunters Chameleon- Need I say more?
broken rhodes -- 10/01/2004, 23:20:53 -- #7646
closed blocks
hi albetan,
thank you very much for your lessons.
i've been learning/practicing them for the past few months and i think they are wonderful.
but i'm having trouble with closed/open blocks (melodic voicing 2).
i haven't been able to  harmonize all diatonic scales. is there another way you can explain closed blocks?

thanks
broke rhodes

albetan -- 10/02/2004, 06:49:19 -- #7652
It's normal that you are having trouble with blocks. That is an advaced style. You must master all diatonic scales, study files "beginning scales and arpeggios" and "mastering basic arpeggios and scales".
Practise diatonic scales in all tonalities, and afterwards practice all scales with blocks.
Good luck.

Maybeck Recital Hall Series: Kenny Barron: one of the best.
albetan -- 10/02/2004, 06:49:20 -- #7653
It's normal that you are having trouble with blocks. That is an advaced style. You must master all diatonic scales, study files "beginning scales and arpeggios" and "mastering basic arpeggios and scales".
Practise diatonic scales in all tonalities, and afterwards practice all scales with blocks.
Good luck.

albetan -- 10/02/2004, 07:05:22 -- #7654
Mastering blocks
Please study file "Mastering blocks" at "Technique and exercises" room.

ptrptrptr -- 10/02/2004, 09:54:31 -- #7659
Left Hand?
Hi albetan,
pardon my stupid question, but..
I'm having difficulties in playing fast swing on a solo piano.
I don't want to play walking bass on my left hand, I want my left hand to play the bass and the chords.
That way, my right hand would be free for improvisation.
But, right now I don't know what to do with my left hand, because if I try to play the bass and the chords on my left hand, the song doesn't feel like swingin'.
Can you teach me how to play fast swing on a solo piano without walking bass?
Thanks in advance.

albetan -- 10/02/2004, 12:56:38 -- #7666
Please sutdy my file "The swing feeling".
You may mark an easy rhythm with root and chord

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albetan -- 10/02/2004, 13:06:37 -- #7667
Sorry, my message went out.
You may mark an easy rhythm with root and chord as a march while improvising.
See my file "Beginning improvisation".
Also you may improvise playing rootles chords in A/B forms. See file "Harmonic voicings". You may perform rhythmic chords in four beats, or one or two chords in syncopation.
The great secret is to feel rhythmic pulse from your subconscious, no thinking, no counting. To mark pulse with foot helps a lot as a mechanism of  connection with your subconscious.

ptrptrptr -- 10/04/2004, 01:17:22 -- #7701
solo jazz piano
Playing solo piano is difficult, particularly when it’s time for improvisation.
I am confused about what to do with my left hand.
I can play walking bass, but I don’t like it much.
Stride piano is difficult, I can play the theme song with it  but when it’s time for improvisation I can’t concentrate enough to play any good improvisation.
Improvising is not a problem when I’m playing with a band, but when I’m playing solo I have to do all the bass, chords and melody improvisation.
When using stride piano, the left hand job is too much distraction to improvise nicely on the right hand.
I could use my left hand to comp the chords and the right hand to play the melody improvisation, but then the bass is missing.
If I play the bass with my left hand and the right hand to play the melody improvisation, then the chords are missing.
Confused…

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albetan -- 10/04/2004, 06:20:18 -- #7705
Musical Perception
Hi Jazzlike:
Please go to search engine (upwards) and write "musical perception", selecting "rooms".
Analyse how do you perceive music and try to develop a structural perception for a better piano perfomance.

ptrptrptr -- 10/06/2004, 21:51:41 -- #7833
Oh, OK, I got it! Thanks, Albetan.
And right now I am also practicing stride to enrich my playing.
Thanks.

skatta -- 10/11/2004, 18:06:06 -- #7932

I'm looking for names of good songs to learn.  i like blues and funk alot. if anybody knows medeski martin and wood that would be for me a sort of ideal style. really any favorites you might have that you deem relatively simple from a chord sequence point of view would be awesome.(though a few difficult and unorthodox chords would be ideal. just not too many. i think i'd rather learn 10 songs with one complicated chord each rather than one song with 10 complicated chords in it, i can't even always guess the simple ones right away) and also any of your favorite renditions of them so i could grab the mp3 and check out what the pros are doing with it.


      my current goal is to associate the names of chords with their characteristic sounds as well as how they complement each other in sequence and i guess sometimes on top of each other too. i figure that just learning songs, and the names of the chords they're made with, is probably the best way to do this, but if you have any other tips that can help me do this that would be great. i don't have much of a problem with improvisation of singular notes, though there's always infinite room to improve, but if i want to play a chord i find it a little bit difficult because for me there is a resulting sound of the chord, which i usually associate with one note, for some reason, the others are kind of like filler, i don't know if this makes sense but.. finding all the other parts of the chord can be very difficult because i need to guess the exact location of 3 or more notes and if i'm off then i can forget what i was trying to find or i'll accidentaly find something new that i like and i go off on a tangent and have learned nothing, and when i do find a chord i'm looking for i don't know what's the root and what's what so when i want to play that sound again i have to guess from scratch (and even at that i'm not sure if i'd realize that that was the same sound as a chord i had figured out earlier because the context is different and that sorta changes things for me). plus the way the piano is setup with black and white keys the intervals though always the same do not look the same in pattern form making it even harder.  i figure if i associate the names of chords with their sounds and compostion that will eliminate this problem. i find it difficult to bring myself to doing drills because they are kinda bland and music always beckons and then i give in. though i do practise my muscles by learning licks i heard that i particularly liked and that often requires repitition but with a good immediately observable prize, a sweet lick. so if you know of a good and fun way to learn chord names/sound that would be awesome. and any other suggestions would be amazing as well.


i'm a newbie so i don't know if there is a place like this on this site but i find it would be great to have a list of songs people can add to and give votes on difficulty level out of 10 for example, as well as some names of artists who made renditions of them that people particularly like, which is good for learning and good for listening too.

p.s. sorry if i'm misusing the forums at all i may have posted this in other rooms but i get kinda lost in here at times and i forget what room i was in and whatnot.

thanks for reading this i'm sorry it's long but i just wanted you to know where i was at.

albetan -- 10/11/2004, 19:02:23 -- #7934
Hi skatta:
You are looking for names of good songs to learn. Please save this link into your favourites: http://mapage.noos.fr/realbook/index_accueil.htm
There you will find everything about blues and jazz.

You are having troubles with chords, because chords are not in your subconscious. You must study carefully all chords so as you may play no thinking, no remembering notes, with spontaneity, you must load all that stuff in your subconscious.

Please study these files at Albetan's area:
"Beginning scales and chords"
"Beginning modal scales and arpeggios"
"The subconscious in music"

Study also files at Technique and exercises:
"Mastering basic arpeggios and scales"
"Mastering modal scales"

Good luck.

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clobaton -- 10/13/2004, 10:23:19 -- #7992
HI skatta:
I kindly want to offer you a tip : KISS =" keep it simple silly", which means just that. dont do all that thinking because it will get even harder. I am a newbie too and If you follow the subconcious aproach of albetan you will get it  in a matter of days! cheers.

melvin -- 10/14/2004, 09:49:44 -- #8028
Que tal
Tu teoría es excelente pero..
me preguntaba si tu no tenias unos ejercicios para
obtener agilidad en los dedos,
lo que pasa es que tengo manos un poco pequeñas y me cuesta
hacer saltos rapidos y largos
porfa... y gracias
(c)Capsule Corp

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albetan -- 10/14/2004, 10:25:27 -- #8032
Agilidad en los dedos
Hola Melvin:
Para agilidad en los dedos lo mejor es Hanon en todas las tonalidades.
Busca "Hanon for jazz" en "Technique and exercises" . Ahi encuentras también otros ejercicios buenos en los artículos "Mastering..."

albetan -- 10/16/2004, 15:15:39 -- #8115
2 Latin standards
I have uploaded for few days "Piel Canela"  and "La Comparsa" at "Jazz en Español".
If you have Finale you may see and hear scores.
If you have not Finale, you may download for free Finale Note Pad from:
http://www.finalemusic.com/notepad/
Good luck and enjoy these two latin classical standards.

apurudy -- 10/18/2004, 04:19:40 -- #8133
TICO TICO
Hi Albertan
I’m working thru you excellent SAMBA lesson
Question: Were can I find the music sheet from TICO TICO ?

I appreciate your help
Best wishes
Rudy

albetan -- 10/18/2004, 08:49:47 -- #8137
Tico tico
Hi Rudy:
I uploaded it for you at "Jazz en Español".
Good luck and enjoy Tico Tico.

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apurudy -- 10/19/2004, 07:10:31 -- #8172
Tico Tico
Hi Albertan
I can not download Tico Tico from "Jazz en Español".
There is problem with MUS files.
Should I get a spezial Program for it?
Best wishes
Rudy

albetan -- 10/19/2004, 07:53:30 -- #8173
Tico tico (PDF)
I changed format of your tune.

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clobaton -- 10/19/2004, 15:49:40 -- #8188
Piel canela
THanks Albetan for your excelent piel canela..!!!

albetan -- 10/19/2004, 15:50:47 -- #8189
Enjoy it, Lobito

apurudy -- 10/19/2004, 23:58:02 -- #8197
Download MUS files?
Hi Prof Albertan
what kind of programs should I have to download MUS Files?
Best wishes
Rudy

albetan -- 10/20/2004, 07:16:24 -- #8201
How to see and hear .mus files
Please download for free finale note pad from:
http://www.finalemusic.com/notepad/
Good luck.

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raindops -- 10/21/2004, 10:19:55 -- #8232
Latin styles
hello. looks a very useful website here im trying to learn latin styles of piano and am at the beginning at the moment. could you send me files relevent to these things, i had a look in the file list and there were some that sounded good on different latin type forms. In what format do them come in?

sorry i am new to here and not quite sure how it works. cheers!

thanks in advance.

raindops -- 10/21/2004, 10:23:22 -- #8233
I am sorry i just found the place where the files are kept. i should look more carefully next time. cheers.

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Scot -- 10/25/2004, 23:05:39 -- #8348
Albetan- you should see your "room administration" link now.

albetan -- 10/26/2004, 07:04:29 -- #8357
Thanks, Scot.
I like "room administration" also in "Jazz en Español".
In "my settings" i changed number of messages to display to 200. I like to return to default number, but it's not posible. May you help me?
Good chage in "display newest/oldest first"."show all".
Thanks in advance.

albetan -- 10/26/2004, 07:04:31 -- #8358
Thanks, Scot.
I like "room administration" also in "Jazz en Español".
In "my settings" i changed number of messages to display to 200. I like to return to default number, but it's not posible. May you help me?
Good chage in "display newest/oldest first"."show all".
Thanks in advance.

femi -- 10/26/2004, 09:24:25 -- #8360
left and right chord voicings
hi albetan plz  can u give left and right chord voicings for advance jazz chords please, any one u have thanks. femi

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albetan -- 10/26/2004, 10:18:21 -- #8361
Hi Femi:
Please sttudy at Albetan's:
"Melodic voicings 1, 2"
"Harmonic voicings"

skatta -- 10/26/2004, 17:00:26 -- #8370
runs and scales
I was just wondering what type of fingering would be used for a long run in either 32s or 64ths lasting a couple of bars. i know it depends on the notes but let's just say for argument's sake that it is a chromatic scale. it seems to me that it  requires 2 hands and i'm not quite sure what would be the best way to approach it, especially since odds are the way i am doing it now is not most efficient. Also just to clarify. in order to learn all of the basic scales i only need to learn 12 patterns on the keyboard right?

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albetan -- 10/27/2004, 06:39:08 -- #8379
Hi Scatta:
The best solution for your questions is to study The Virtuoso Pianist by Hanon. If you don't have it, please go to "jazz piano links" here in LJP and look for "Piano technique".
http://www.mysheetmusic.com/new/msmgenrehanon.asp?
SelectedGenre=0000000016

Also study in "Technique and exercises":
"Mastering basic arpeggios and scales"
"Mastering modal scales".

skatta -- 10/27/2004, 17:38:12 -- #8384
hi, thx for the tip i found the book you were talking about but i think the website went through renovations or something since the link you put seemed to be old. so just for future reference if anyone else asks http://www.mysheetmusic.com was still good and then a quick search of "hanlon" in the search box found what i was looking for. i will definately go through the book it will particularly help my left hand and i guess my sight reading too. sometimes to get a nice fast run feel for example when ending a song in a major scale i like to run up the arpeggio of the major chord. i find that using crossovers to run through it helps alot to make it fast and flowing. are there any general fingering tips like the hanlon for other such crossover runs? thx

albetan -- 10/27/2004, 19:16:08 -- #8390
Thanks, Skatta for right link.
In Hanon you will find technique and mastering of fingers.
For runs in arpeggios please see in "Technique and exercises":
"Mastering arpeggios"
"Chopin's arpeggios for jazz"

loluoresegun -- 10/29/2004, 05:02:02 -- #8423
what are realbooks and fakebooks
hello prof albetan,
     i'm a newbie to jazz tutorial books. i just keep hearing realbooks, fakebooks, and the like but i dunno what they mean, i mean, what kind of jazz lesson books are real and fake, i just dont know. please help me to elaborate on this. thanks in advance.

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albetan -- 10/29/2004, 07:12:15 -- #8426
Fake books contain tunes with melody and chords. Many publishers cut melodies from standard sheet music and paste it in a page.
In 60ths some students did a big  manuscript book with most of jazz standards and they called it Real Book. It was copied and most of musicians have gotten it. It is known as the illegal Realbook.
You may find some legal realbooks published by Sher Music.
Please read a thread in Lobby Lounge "The old real book..." by Scot.

apurudy -- 10/31/2004, 02:45:59 -- #8480
differences between SAMBA and BOSSA
Hi prof Albertan
I’ve got as European many  inherited problems with south American music.
Can you explain what is the differences  between SAMBA and BOSSA
Many thanks in advance
Best wishes
Rudy

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albetan -- 10/31/2004, 05:35:54 -- #8481
Hi Rudy:
Samba is the most traditional dance music in Brazil.
Bossa nova is a new style and rhythm created near 1960 by A.C. Jobim, with elements of Samba and Jazz.
Samba is in a more fast tempo, Bossa is more slow.
Bossa is a style very rich in harmony.
So Samba is the mother of bossa, and jazz its father...
One of most famous bossas is "One note samba" by Jobim.

rstein1234 -- 11/03/2004, 21:45:47 -- #8606
Quartals Against Pentatonics
Albetan --
I've been trying to track down these exercises at LJP. Can you direct me?

Many thanks,
Ron

albetan -- 11/04/2004, 05:14:19 -- #8609
Hi Ron:
You will find that exercise in "Technique and exercises".

yohanes -- 11/04/2004, 19:54:44 -- #8641
fingering for hanon in all tonalities
Hi prof Albetan,
would u like to tell me fingering principles on hanon exercise? should i applied the same fingering in all tonalities or i'have to use clasical principle?
Many thanks
yohanes

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albetan -- 11/05/2004, 07:08:42 -- #8648
Hi Yonanes:
You may apply same original fingering in all tonalities.
Don't be afraid of thumb over black keys.

femi -- 11/09/2004, 06:25:14 -- #8780
blues chords and riffs
hi pro albetan can you give me blues chords that are used by black gospel musicians for gospel spirituals both praise and worship i really need it please also with their riffs and fill-ins. thanks
Femi

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albetan -- 11/09/2004, 07:17:31 -- #8782
Hi Femi:
Please write your post in Lobby Lounge. There are some musicians experts in that stuff.

ole_kike -- 11/12/2004, 07:29:47 -- #8880
download problem from file list
Hi Albetan,

unfortunately I find problems in downloading from you file list. somehow there are no pdf files attached. :-(

Can you help me with that?

Un saludo,
Ole_kike

albetan -- 11/12/2004, 12:18:30 -- #8891
Hi Ole_Kike:
Please download for free Adobe Reader from:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/main.html

There are two systems of downloading files:
1) Click on file's name.
2) Put mouse on file's name, right-click and select "save as".
Good luck.

ole_kike -- 11/12/2004, 14:21:02 -- #8893
doen't work yet
Hi Albetan,

Thanks for answering so quickly!

Sorry, somehow it doesn't work. I've already got Adobe reader. Right clicking and saving as, doesn't work eather. I'll keep on trying, and searching for a solution. I'm really into salsa (music and dancing!)and try to combine it now with my piano playing.

My internet explorer says that the site is not available. Perhaps the problem lies at 'your side'?

Ole_kike

Ramsey Lewis: The In Crowd Funky, bluesy, jazzy, defined an era, yeah baby!
albetan -- 11/12/2004, 17:40:44 -- #8901
Ole_Kike:
You are right... "saving as" does not work.
Cliking (left) on name of file begin downloading process... it take a time until acrobat screen appears... please wait with patience and youe will see files in your screen.
Tell me if you get it.
Good luck.

pilar_chaves -- 11/14/2004, 11:42:37 -- #8918
no logro ,d Albero entrar por files group
no logro entrar por files group a sus clases

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albetan -- 11/14/2004, 11:53:15 -- #8919
Pique con el ratón (mouse)izquierdo en list files y aparece una lista con todas las lecciones.
Pique en la lección que desee y aparece después de unos segundos mientras se carga el programa Acrobat.
Suerte.

jaimefgm -- 11/17/2004, 15:08:06 -- #9030
Enhorabuena
Hola Albetán,

Congratulations for your page and all the files you uploaded. I'm
studying piano jazz on my own and using some books and stuff on the web. Specially for latin comping what your files are great! I'm working hard on your montunos in all the tonalities. For the ii-V-I progression is fine but then, when I try to apply a montuno to another chord progression it doesn't go that smooth, any advice for this?

Gracias y enhorabuena de nuevo.

Jaime Fernández (Barcelona, Spain)

markmanu -- 11/18/2004, 19:25:45 -- #9075
Chopin's arpeggios for jazz
Hi Albetan

I have downloaded lots of the files you have made available to LJP and think they are wonderfull. I will maybe ask some questions when I have done some more practice on them, however the file Chopin's arpeggios for jazz is the only file I cant seem to get, is there any chance of having a look at that for me.
Kind Regards Marc
P.S. my fingers are getting better already from some of your files.

albetan -- 11/18/2004, 20:15:19 -- #9077
Hi Markmanu:
I have uploaded again Chopin's file at Albetan's Area. Please tell me if you could download it.
I'm happy because your fingers are getting better already from some of my files.
Good luck.

Ramsey Lewis: The In Crowd Funky, bluesy, jazzy, defined an era, yeah baby!
markmanu -- 11/18/2004, 20:42:45 -- #9078
Chopin's arpeggios for jazz
Hi Albetan

Thanks for the quick response, but unfortunately it still dosnt work.
P.S. on the mastering arpeggios file your have uploaded would you suggest one hand at a time at first,if so how long before trying both hands together or should I be forcing my self both hands right away because it is a bit of a struggle to say the least.
Regards
Marc

albetan -- 11/19/2004, 07:00:36 -- #9089
Hi Marc:
Try again... I have uploaded Chopin's file in finale .mus format.
If you don't have Finale, please download for free Finale note pad from:
www.finalemusic.com/notepad/
So you may listen to score clicking on "play".
Good luck.

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kirshaid -- 11/19/2004, 09:43:49 -- #9092
Latin Grooves file
Hi Alberto
I am trying to download the Latin Grooves file but it comes as .BAK file for which the PC does not recognise application.  I tried to rename it as .pdf but Adobe can not open it.  How can I open that .BAK file
Many thanks

albetan -- 11/19/2004, 12:08:00 -- #9096
Hi Kirshaid:
I could not open those .BAK files.
It was not uploaded by albetan.

albetan -- 11/19/2004, 17:17:21 -- #9106
Hi Jaimefgm:
I answered your questions in room "Jazz en Español".

kirshaid -- 11/20/2004, 06:34:20 -- #9112
Thanks Albertan.
By the way I find that your explainations and excercise examples are great. Thanks for the effort which I am sure is very appreciated by every aspiring improvisor.

I am trying to learn better improvisation skills.  I have a  general question about midi for you:

- do you recommend to practising improvisation along a midi song?
- I guess there are maybe some suitable midi loops on this site which could serve this purpuse?
- I have not had a chance to work with midi so I ignore a lot about it.  What is the way to get a better sound out of those midi files (can the output devise be yamaha keyboard sound rather than the PC built in synthesiser squeeky sound) so you could get a feeling of playing with a band
- what is a good free midi sequencer software (shareware from the net) and are they useful for playing back and practising? is there a free version of Cakewalk?

Sorry for too many questions but I really would appreciate a guiding light to set on the right direction.

Kind regards

Ramsey Lewis: The In Crowd Funky, bluesy, jazzy, defined an era, yeah baby!
albetan -- 11/20/2004, 15:16:20 -- #9120
¿Impro along a midi song?
Good exercise if you make the comping track with bass, guitar and rhythms... Then you improvise in your piano. So you "get a feeling of playing with a band" and you learn to comp in a band.
If you like to improvise with midi files, please mute or delete melody.
I don't know a good free midi sequencer. I like Cakewalk.

albetan -- 11/20/2004, 15:21:49 -- #9121
"Band in a box" from PG music is fantastic for practising impro.
"Power tracks" from PG music is a good sequencer and no expensive.
www.pgmusic.com

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kirshaid -- 11/21/2004, 12:22:17 -- #9140
Hi Again Albertan,

I am a really beginner in jazz,  but I am very interested and finding these lessons very helpful.
By now I can play the ii-V-I without too much thinking in all keys with A or B forms,with LH in strides... om-pa om-pa, with Scot's voicings (9 and 13), and with the V alt or V lydian etc, and can play the progression rootless etc.  
I also learned all the diatonic scales and is starting blues, diminished, altered scales etc
I am now stuck with 2 things
- when improvising with RH I find myself using mainly diatonic scales
- I do not know many other progressions than ii-V-i so it is beginning to sound monotonus

Where should I go from here?  I need a SONG example to apply all this in, with some varied progressions, and some hints about the scales that are nice to use in it.
Which song exampole would be good for me at this stage (and which pianist famous recording of it can I try to imitate?)

Thanks always

kirshaid -- 11/21/2004, 12:24:24 -- #9141
(I forgot to mention, I have Ok technique in both hands so no problem on that level.)

camoon -- 11/21/2004, 12:54:13 -- #9145
re:extended chords
Hi Albeton.  I don't seem to be able to access the file entitled 'extended chords and arpeggios', as it says this server cannot be found.  Your help would be much appreciated, I am enjoying your lessons, thankyou.

markmanu -- 11/21/2004, 18:49:29 -- #9157
Chopin's Arpeggios for Jazz(finale)
Hi Albertan

Thanks I have the file Chopin's Arpeggios for Jazz(finale) and it is very good I like the look of finale.

Regards
Marc

Ramsey Lewis: The In Crowd Funky, bluesy, jazzy, defined an era, yeah baby!
albetan -- 11/21/2004, 19:07:49 -- #9158
Extended chords
Hi Camoon:
Click on list files and wait  a bit while acrobat appears.
You must have acrobat reader or adobe reader. Download it for free from:
www.adobe.com
Please tell me if you could load it.

albetan -- 11/21/2004, 19:24:29 -- #9159
Hi Kirshaid:
Here in LJP you will find tons of stuff for learning jazz.
You said: " when improvising with RH I find myself using mainly diatonic scales".
When improvising with RH think in chord notes and any note between them as passing sounds. Use also pentatonic scales.
Please read my files "Beginning improvisation". "Beginning pentatonics".

"I do not know many other progressions than ii-V-i so it is beginning to sound monotonus"
See file "Chord Progressions". Study it carefully and analize progressions in your favourite standards.

You are asking wich pianist to imitate. Nobody... Be yourself... You must create your own style and your musical personality.
Good luck.

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clobaton -- 11/22/2004, 08:57:35 -- #9169
FREE CAKEWALK
Hi all .. I saw you were looking for a free sequencer, I know http://www.jazzware.com/
it comes from the linux system, its king of simple but good and totally free.
Enjoy.

PS:
kirshaid : Try to immitate Bill Evans! it is worth the effort!

Peteboypete -- 11/22/2004, 12:08:39 -- #9170
Yeah, that is a really nice sequencer.  I use it a lot.

clobaton -- 11/23/2004, 09:39:59 -- #9191
Sequencer
Hey Peteboypete , do you know of another sequencer besides jazz that could actually write/show the notes on treble and bass clefs?? I use winjammer for that, but of course my copy is not legal.

Peteboypete -- 11/24/2004, 13:33:29 -- #9215
No, I got a good deal on the full version of Finale, so I use that.

Ramsey Lewis: The In Crowd Funky, bluesy, jazzy, defined an era, yeah baby!
pilar_chaves -- 11/24/2004, 14:30:20 -- #9216
files group-jazz en español

ole_kike -- 11/24/2004, 14:43:49 -- #9217
opening pdf files doesn't work either
Albetan,

Unfortunately, just left clicking on the filenames doesn't work either. No downloading takes place.

:-(

Saludo,
ole_kike

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albetan -- 11/25/2004, 05:43:23 -- #9225
ole_kike
Please write that problem in Bugs reports.

kirshaid -- 11/25/2004, 11:25:09 -- #9227
Thanks Albertan for the reply, I found & downloaded your mentioned files. Will do Progressions and Pentatonics for a while and might come back to you with queries after studying them carefully.

Thanks Loboto for the hints.
Good jazz.

kirshaid -- 11/25/2004, 11:26:28 -- #9228
sorry, I meant Lobito

Nor251 -- 11/26/2004, 07:17:39 -- #9239
I'm back !
Hi there,

I'm Nor, sorry for not writing so for a while, I was writing my jazz book project witch's now called "Jazzology: The Encyclopeadia of Jazz Theory for all Musicians" & will be published by Hal Leonard next year 2005. Now I'm preparing a Bebop book. I did struggled how to navigate through the new forum compilation since I did not post for more than one year ago....now I'm back, I will answer your question if I can.

Nor (Morocco)

Ramsey Lewis: The In Crowd Funky, bluesy, jazzy, defined an era, yeah baby!
albetan -- 11/26/2004, 09:24:52 -- #9240
Hi Nor:
Welcome again to LJP.
Click upwards in "Rooms map" and you will find everything.

albetan -- 11/26/2004, 09:27:38 -- #9241
Nor:
In "Misc lessons" you will find your old contributions.
How are you now in salsa?.

Purgatory Pete's Pancakes and Spirits: Sal the private eye finds much more than he is looking for.
Nor251 -- 11/28/2004, 10:00:43 -- #9287
to Albetan
Hi Albetan,

I loved your pdf stuff, yes your ideas are great & still liek mines, i'll too put some other salsa stuff here if I've some time..

Nor.

albetan -- 11/28/2004, 10:56:54 -- #9288
Nor: Your salsa thoughts are welcome here.
I suggest yo to create your personal room in LJP.
Good luck.

clobaton -- 11/29/2004, 06:52:03 -- #9315
Good Idea salsa room

Hey Nor: A salsa room would be great!

C3002 -- 11/29/2004, 11:39:47 -- #9325
Quartals by 7 ?
Albetan,
I'm reading (and practising) your stuff with pleasure. In the piece about pentatonics and quartals you refer to the Quartals essay of 7. To be frank, I don't quite understand how to deal with that> Are we talking about sequences, riffs, chords ? It's quite an extensive list but I'm fraid I don't know how how to interpret this. Could you explain how to handle, please ?

Regards, C3002

Ramsey Lewis: The In Crowd Funky, bluesy, jazzy, defined an era, yeah baby!
ole_kike -- 11/29/2004, 13:22:30 -- #9329
pdf files probably to big to open
Hi Albetan,

Searching for a solution on opening the list files, the cause could the large size of the pdf files??? Is that so, Albetan?

I could open the midi files from indestructible! So that works.

Though, opening the other files failed.

Downloading in this could be the solution, I guess. So, can you fix that on 'your' side?

Regards,
Ole_kike (I, 'salsafreak', would really like to see those files, I hope you understand that)

ole_kike -- 11/29/2004, 13:25:12 -- #9330
cool midi: indestructible
Nice track from indestructible.

Ole_kike

Purgatory Pete's Pancakes and Spirits: Sal the private eye finds much more than he is looking for.
albetan -- 11/29/2004, 14:12:03 -- #9332
Hi C3002:
You may ask for it directly to the author in room "7's Heaven".
Good luck.

albetan -- 11/29/2004, 14:22:25 -- #9333
Hi Ole_Kike:
Thanks for your opinion about Indestructible.
I'm sorry because you could not download my files.
All my files are less than 150 K. LJP does not upload files too heavy.
Do you have last version of acrobat? or adobe? Please download it from:
http://www.adobe.com/
You must click on the file's name and wait a bit while a
Acrobat or Adobe reader  appears. With a bit of patience you will get it.
May be it helps if you click on red "refresh"....
Good luck.

broken rhodes -- 12/01/2004, 21:08:08 -- #9391
metronome?
hi albetan,
how important is it to practice to a metronome?
while practicing your lessons i have not been using a metronome because i think they are boring and make practicing more difficult.

thanks,
br

albetan -- 12/02/2004, 06:32:46 -- #9398
Hi broken rhodes:
Try to develop your internal subconscious metronome.
I explain how to get it in file "How to play piano at sight".
Playing with metronome or with a rhythm machine is good for preparing you to play with a band.

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
ole_kike -- 12/03/2004, 14:06:50 -- #9451
thanks!
Hi Albetan,

The problem was the adobe version. Is has been solved!
Thanks for your help.

Ole_kike

albetan -- 12/03/2004, 15:36:10 -- #9453
I'm very happy for that new.
Enjoy it.

Purgatory Pete's Pancakes and Spirits: Sal the private eye finds much more than he is looking for.
ole_kike -- 12/05/2004, 14:02:22 -- #9487
Thanks , Albetan

nihonjin -- 12/10/2004, 02:16:20 -- #9577
Comping voicings
hi Albatan,

I am very much enjoying the files in your room however I was wondering if you have made som excercises for comping in at group setting. I am thinking of rootless two handedvoicings over 2-5-1 in major and minor as well as diminished chords. I am currently trying to learn some comping voicing and I am working on drop 2, but I would like to hear if you have some thoughts on the art of comping.

Sincerly

Nihonjin

albetan -- 12/10/2004, 07:30:04 -- #9579
Hi Nihonjin:
The art of comping in piano is a great exercise of creativity.
There are thousands of ways and styles for it:
Left bass, Right rhythmic chords
Left rhythmic chords (rootless), Right harmonic background
Left bass and rhythmic chords, Right melodic fillíngs
Open chords in both hands
Axis of seventh and third.
Left harmonic shells
Left harmonic rhythm, Right one chord note as a countermelody.

You may explore other ways for comping
A good exercise is to listen a recording and to comp it simultaneously in piano.

clobaton -- 12/10/2004, 07:56:38 -- #9580
comping
Hi profe. I am back after vacation :) what does comping mean?? (in spanich maybe?)
ciao

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
albetan -- 12/10/2004, 10:52:03 -- #9588
To comp is an apocope for to accompany very used between musicians.

apurudy -- 12/12/2004, 07:52:35 -- #9622
BRASIL Samba
Hi Albertain
Do you any idea ?
Where can I get the music sheet from
BRASIL Samba
Best wishes
Rudy

Purgatory Pete's Pancakes and Spirits: Sal the private eye finds much more than he is looking for.
albetan -- 12/12/2004, 08:31:10 -- #9623
Hi Rudy:
http://www.ethosbrasil.com/nav/partit.htm

apurudy -- 12/16/2004, 06:16:39 -- #9706
Lambada
Hi Albertain
Can I get same details over LAMBADA
Best wishes
Rudy

albetan -- 12/16/2004, 06:21:51 -- #9707
Hola Diego
Gracias por esos dos links espectaculares.
Mientras puedes retomar las clases presenciales puedes aprovechar todo este material para avanzar en tus estudios de música.
Suerte.
ALBERTO

albetan -- 12/16/2004, 15:14:58 -- #9722
Hi Rudy:
Lambada was a tune recorded by Kaoma Group in the middle of 80ths with a very sensual and provocative style of dancing.
Today nobody plays it in Latin America.
If you like some info look for it at Google.com

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
clobaton -- 12/31/2004, 08:37:55 -- #10011
Happy 2005 for all of you
I guess everyone is on vacation, but HAPPY 2005!!!!
I wish you all the best for 2005 full of music and more happiness.

maldini -- 01/04/2005, 13:16:26 -- #10111
hola soy un miembro nuevo y me gusta mucho el jazz y la musica latina, hablo un poco de ingles y tratare de sacarle el mayor provecho a todos los conocimientos que pueda encontrar aqui....
gracias!!!!

Purgatory Pete's Pancakes and Spirits: Sal the private eye finds much more than he is looking for.
albetan -- 01/04/2005, 18:15:31 -- #10114
Hola Maldini:
Te invito a visitar "Jazz en Español"

charly -- 01/09/2005, 07:04:17 -- #10223
hola albetan soy carlos muchisimas grasias por toda tu informacion tenias razon baje adobe reader era lo que nesesitaba para entrar alas paginas y encontre mas informasion de la que me esperaba demasiada diria yo. es genial tu area de jazz en español. nos vemos al rato y                                                                                     GRASIAS.

lolligo -- 01/22/2005, 03:59:10 -- #10593
hoping for some help
Hi everyone! I know this has nothing to do with jazz or piano, but my brother has been searching online for a site like this for guitar with stuff he can download about learning to read guitar sheet music. if anyone knows of any...I'd really appreciate any help, thanks.

clobaton -- 01/27/2005, 14:42:28 -- #10779
Super profe.. gracias!!!
Thank you profe. There is a software called vanBasco's Karaoke Player and it shows you the piano while it plays a  midi file. I played the music from PianoBar.com and it shows me the tricks of Luciano quiñones :)

chao.

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
albetan -- 01/27/2005, 16:53:34 -- #10786
That Luciano's Piano Bar is a nice site. He plays by ear in a very rich style... Good tips for you who play also by ear and like boleros.
In vanBasco's you may select and balance different tracks.

J. C. SÁNCHEZ -- 02/01/2005, 12:24:38 -- #10884
I JUST CAN SAY THANKS

Birks Works: Our world to Birk is but a shell for the real universe.
albetan -- 02/01/2005, 21:42:28 -- #10894
Welcome J.C.Sanchez to LearnJazzPiano.
I invite you to "Jazz en Español". Click on "Rooms map" (upwards).
There click on "list files" and you will find good tips.

paddyallen -- 02/03/2005, 16:42:12 -- #10959
The subconscience in Music. pdf file
Hello! Mr Albertan. I cannot open the pdf file called 'The Subconscience in Music' It downloads as a pdf file but will not open in text form. All I get is a small icon,top left of page. I have not been able to read this text.

Any ideas would  be much appreciated.

Thanks

paddyallen

(Alan)

albetan -- 02/03/2005, 17:00:52 -- #10960
May be your pdf reader must be updated.
Please go to:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat
and download for free "Adobe Reader".
Please tell me if you get it.
Good luck.

paddyallen -- 02/05/2005, 02:26:03 -- #10997
From Alan
Thanks, Albetan, have updated Adobe to V 7 and it works.

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
theking -- 02/07/2005, 22:28:39 -- #11059
Connecting the Dots
I study alot of theory and have found myself a walking encyclopedia of knowledge, the problem is im having a hard time making a complete connection to my instrument. Do you have any suggestions on how i can apply the head knowledge to the piano.

albetan -- 02/08/2005, 09:59:55 -- #11066
Hi Theking:
I suggest to read my file "The subconscious in music".

If you know a lot of theory, You must sit at your piano and practice, beginning with easy pieces. Bach’s pieces in Anna Magdalene’s Note-book is a good stuff for classical music.
If you like to advance in jazz please click on red “w” near my name and you will find files in an order to study. There you will find practical tips for jazz and general piano.

The magical formula for you is practice, practice, practice.

Good luck.

Birks Works: Our world to Birk is but a shell for the real universe.
charly -- 02/12/2005, 15:23:38 -- #11185
hola albetan soy charly otra vez gracias por toda tu informacion tengo otra pregunta me gustaria bajar videos de jazz piano o ver clases de jazz piano en video no se si tengas alguna pagina o algo por el estilo    gracias albetan.

albetan -- 02/12/2005, 15:42:00 -- #11187
Charly: Si encuentras una página de esas me cuentas.
No creo que encuentres nada en internet mejor que LJP para aprender jazz.

ole_kike -- 02/12/2005, 18:10:00 -- #11191
Busco partitura para piano de la cancion 'Sofrito' del grupo Monguito
Who can help me find above mentioned title?

Hope 2 hear from U!

Saludo,
ole_kike

albetan -- 02/12/2005, 22:11:25 -- #11192
Ole_kike:
Es muy difícil que encuentres ese tipo de partituras. El único recurso para esa clase de música es la transcripción.
Hoy es muy fácil transcribir con los recursos modernos.
Deja correr el disco durante una frase varias veces... Trata de tocar en el teclado la melodía identificando las notas correctas y su duración llevando el compás con la mano.
En la parte superior de un pentagrama doble lo vas escribiendo.  Si es muy rápida la velocidad encuentras muchos modos de  bajarla como grabando en .wav y variando el tempo. En muchos secuenciadores y programas de softweare puedes grabar audio y luego le varías el tempo...
Una vez terminaste con la melodía, en un segundo pentagrama abajo trata de escribir los bajos... y conociendo el bajo y la línea melódica es muy fácil ir sacando los acordes en cada compás.
En la primera partitura te puedes gastar muchísimo tiempo... poco a poco irás agarrando experiencia y será más rápido.
Suerte y éxitos.

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
erigane -- 02/14/2005, 10:23:21 -- #11206
software para variar el tiempo
ole_kike

Uno de esos programas se llama Transcribe! y puedes encontrar en el site www.seventhstring.com la versión demo del mismo. Este programa extrae el tema directamente del CD y permite variar el tiempo. Además si tu teclado tiene interface MIDI puedes programar algunas teclas para comandar la reproducción, o sea parar, avanzar, retroceder etc. sin necesidad de tener el teclado de la computadora al alcance de la mano.

Suerte
Eduardo

femi -- 02/15/2005, 10:09:09 -- #11223
rules for altered chords
hi prof Albetan
are there any rules that can guide one at using altered chords.
thanks
femi

Birks Works: Our world to Birk is but a shell for the real universe.
albetan -- 02/15/2005, 17:01:51 -- #11237
The only rule for that is your good taste.
Use them when you like a more advanced and tension sound.
In file "Substitute chords" you may change easy chords for tension chords and tension chords for easy chords.

femi -- 02/26/2005, 08:05:40 -- #11595
chord choice
what inform the choice of chords is it the bass note or the melody note or both. How do i be able to select better chords in a progressions.
how do chords resolve for example what would a 13th chord with +11 and b9 resolve with it but not to kill the tension already set.

albetan -- 02/26/2005, 10:35:58 -- #11598
First question: What inform the choice of chords...
Analyze melody notes to define the key and scale of the tune.
In each tonality you may work with chords beginning in each one of scale degrees. Ex: in C : CM7, Dm7 Em7 FM7 G7 Am7 Bm7b5.
In  some portions of tune you may find modulations to other keys.
See files “Beginning scales, chords, modes, arpeggios”.  And “Chord progressions”.
If you have melody notes and bass line it is very easy to find the rest of chord.

Second question: How do chords resolve...
In classical harmony you must resolve a 13 (or 6) a 11 (or 4) a 13 because they are dissonaces.
But in Jazz harmony they are tension sounds and are part of a chord and they don’t need resolution.  See file “Extended chords”.

femi -- 03/03/2005, 11:47:52 -- #11676
thanks
thanks

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
gbemi -- 03/05/2005, 15:23:18 -- #11711
how to use scales on chords.

Please i have found your lessons very informative and educating. But i've a small problem on applying scales on chords. And using the appropriate one. Please help me out.

albetan -- 03/05/2005, 18:34:00 -- #11714
gbemi:
May you be more specific in your question?

Birks Works: Our world to Birk is but a shell for the real universe.
femi -- 03/08/2005, 11:35:43 -- #11767
phrygian chords
hi albetan.
plz can you tell me about phrygian chords and how their created.
please show me some chords built from phrygian mode.
can these chord be altered.
please i will like if u can take chord compin as a subject in your room and teach because i dont know what it means but i believe it can add spice to ones playing
hope have not ask for too much
thanks

albetan -- 03/08/2005, 18:04:39 -- #11787
Hi Femi:
I don't know phrigyan chords.
Phrygian mode is a natural scale beginning in third degree of diatonic scale.
You may comp it with correspondent chord of third note of scale, Em, Em7.

For mastering chord comping You must master all chords and all chord progressions and substitutions. Also you must develop a great ear training.

femi -- 03/10/2005, 12:32:58 -- #11835
substituions
hi albetan
thanks for answering my question
but can u give me some tools to chord sustitution.
you said i should master all chord pogressions can you help me on various progressions i can explore
thanks and i'm all grateful when you answer  my questions

albetan -- 03/11/2005, 16:28:41 -- #11863
Femi: The use of substitutions is a matter of good taste.
There are not rules for it.
You may experiment by yourself by changing dominant seventh chords by their tritone substitutions in some of your favorite tunes.

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
albetan -- 03/11/2005, 16:31:34 -- #11864
Femi: You may analyze chord progressions in all your favorite standards and you will learn a lot from it.

loluoresegun -- 03/14/2005, 09:39:21 -- #11910
help with scales and arpeggios
hi prof albetan,
      i've been practising my scales and arpeggios over L.H. rootless voicings and it all sounds DUUUULLLLLLL and BOOOOOOOOOOORING to me! duznt sound like jazz at all, well, except for the jazzy L.H. chords. i've been told that there are melodic tricks thst could be used on any scale built on 2nds (including whole tone and chromatic) to make it sound "melodic" although it is a scale, but i dont know of these tricks. I also wanna know how to combine chord-related arpeggios with scales in a legato fashion and use'em to improvise real time! thanks.

Birks Works: Our world to Birk is but a shell for the real universe.
loluoresegun -- 03/14/2005, 09:43:02 -- #11911
that is, improvise over rapid chord changes!!

albetan -- 03/14/2005, 17:06:01 -- #11926
Hi loluoresegun:
In Technique and exercises you will find good stuff for practicing.
Select those files beginning with "Mastering..."
You are asking about "melodic tricks": Use chord notes and connect them with any passing sound. Don't be afraid of sharps and flats.
You may play all 12 notes of chromatic scale but as passing sounds while looking for chord notes.
Remember when you improvise you are creating music in real time.
Try it and enjoy improvisation.

tianjing -- 03/15/2005, 09:52:26 -- #11947
Re: any note
even sharp 5? :O

albetan -- 03/15/2005, 12:03:54 -- #11957
Yes, Tianjing, any note... Don't be afraid of sharps and flats.
You may create your own scales while improvising. Let to achademics and ctitics to analyze them. Be free and original in your phrases.

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
albetan -- 03/15/2005, 17:48:35 -- #11965
More tricks for loluoresegun:
Other practical tricks may be:
Pentatonic scales (Look for it in files list)
A & B voicings ( look for file "Harmonic voicings")
Quartal voicings for piano (look for it in files list).

tianjing -- 03/17/2005, 18:53:24 -- #12021
ok, thanks albetan! :D

Birks Works: Our world to Birk is but a shell for the real universe.
sloba -- 03/17/2005, 19:02:30 -- #12022
Nuno Bettencourt
do you have something related to Nuno Bettencourt from Extreme?(allthough it doesn't spell same...)

albetan -- 03/17/2005, 21:39:42 -- #12025
Sloba:
I don't know him. I have not something related to him.

gbemi -- 03/20/2005, 15:14:46 -- #12078
Using scales and modes

Good day sir,
        Thank you for addressing my question. Sir,for example using of the modes on a chord. I have the broad idea of the modes. but, i don't know how to use and link with another one on a chord.

albetan -- 03/20/2005, 18:20:30 -- #12085
Hi gbemi:
All modes are the same notes of diatonic scale, but beginning in its different grades.
Play C scale...
Play same notes but beginning by D...
Play same notes but beginning by E...
Easy?
Working in key of C, when i find Dm7, i play second mode (dorian)notes.
When i find Em7, i play third mode (phrygian)notes.

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
albetan -- 03/22/2005, 20:19:23 -- #12145
How to play Bossa nova (.mus Finale)
I uploaded once more this file in Finale 2004. If you have an older version please download for free FinaleNotePad from:
www.finalemusic.com/notepad/
Clicking on "play" (a little green triangle) you may hear scores.
Try it and enjoy bossa nova.

skatta -- 03/23/2005, 21:11:20 -- #12170
that damn left hand
hi, i was wondering if you could help with my left hand. the problem is when i play piano i got used to playing a simple loop with my left hand, mostly just octaves and then freestyling with my right. i usually don't really know what the theory  is of what i'm doing, but i can play chords and voicings and whatnot with my right hand over what's in my left. so for me i see my right hand as possibilities of what i can play in relation to single notes rather than in relation to chord progressions or whatever. what i'd like to be able to do is play as free with my left hand as with my right but when i try to do that i often make mistakes and i quite easily lose sight of the progression or whatever i'm playing and all hell breaks loose. if i play with a recording or with a group or something i'm more able to use my left hand but still not so much. really what i would like to do is play as though both my hands were actually just one ten fingered hand, i think part of my problem may be that i can only look at one hand at a time and i have trouble looking at one hand and concetrating on that hand and playing with the other as though my concentration was with that one also. is there anything you could suggest for this specific problem? i was thinking that perhaps i should learn to play written songs as they are written but my lack of ability to sight read really discourages me in that regard. thanks.

The Worms of the Mind: an infinite field of black mud with grub-like worms wriggling about in the dim light of the subconscious.
bavern -- 03/27/2005, 12:17:06 -- #12236
Help with downloading
Hey everybody!

I got a problem when Trying to download the files in this room.
When i try to open it a new internet window starts and it's empty. Nothing more happends. Anyone who know what the problem is?

albetan -- 03/27/2005, 15:51:55 -- #12240
Hi bavern:
May be you have not an updated version of acrobat or Adobe reader.
Please download adobe reader from:
www.adobe.com/acrobat
Good luck and tell me if it works for you.

albetan -- 03/27/2005, 21:25:20 -- #12246
Learning Salsa with feeling
At Albetan’s Area you will find this file: Learning Salsa with feeling.
By kidding with Finale 2004 i made a nice lesson for introducing beginners in the world of Salsa. If you have an older version of Finale you must download FinaleNotePad for free from:
www.finalemusic.com/notepad/
Click on “play” in Playback Controls ( a green triangle) and you will read and hear all stuff.
Enjoy learning Salsa with feeling.

erigane -- 03/28/2005, 11:53:36 -- #12257
error message on .mus files
Dear Master
I can´t open or save any of the .mus files in your area.
When attempting to open, an empty page shows up; when trying to save them, an error message saying the address can´t be found shows up.

Rgds
Eduardo

Kenny Barron/Stan Getz CD: People Time Could be the best sax/piano duo ever.
albetan -- 03/28/2005, 13:07:05 -- #12258
Hi Eduardo:
You must have instaled Finale 2004 or 2005.
If you have an oldest version you must download (for free) FinaleNotePad from
www.finalemusic.com/notepad/
Try it and you will enjoy those .mus files.

bavern -- 03/28/2005, 17:19:19 -- #12262
Thanks
Thanks albetan I downloaded Acrobat reader 7.0 and now it works well:D