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| Rick -- 02/03/2004, 04:36:05 -- #1075811765 | |
| Im going to try and put up some transcriptions Ive done and hopefully we can discuss them and analyse whats going on. I have some Bill Evans, Keith Jarrett and Kenny Wheeler transcriptions. I might also put up some of my tunes so I can ask your opinions on them...but im worried that someone could nick them and stuff...ill have to try n copyright :-) Ill try and answer any questions as well! | |
| Ultimate Latin Songs sheetmusic book | |
| Whacky -- 02/03/2004, 08:13:44 -- #1075824824 | |
| Great! | |
| Looking forward to seeing and hearing your stuff! | |
| Barry -- 02/03/2004, 09:55:08 -- #1075830908 | |
| Sounds marvellous to me! I'll be here for that...... | |
| Rick -- 02/03/2004, 10:52:23 -- #1075834343 | |
| Just while i think......what exactly do u have to do to copyright a piece of music again? something to do with posting it to yourself i think! | |
| Scot -- 02/03/2004, 11:04:20 -- #1075835060 | |
| You can do several things. The easiest and legally binding way is just put your Copyright notice on the bottom and get it notorized. More time consuming but very solid is to send it to the copyright people in WA D.C.. You can also use BMI and ASCAP services to make sure your music is protected. I'm making a new room called 'Music Industry' that will have some files in it that will give you the information you need. | |
| Rick -- 02/03/2004, 11:05:42 -- #1075835142 | |
| Thanks Scot, thats great. Excuse my ignorance, but what what do you do when you "notorize" something? | |
| Whacky -- 02/03/2004, 11:10:16 -- #1075835416 | |
| notarizing | |
| notarizing may be a US thing...we have a person called an authorized "notary public" punch a raised seal on a document and somehow that makes things more legal :) I would think mailing something to yourself would certainly be proof that you wrote that piece or pieces, in the evnent someone swiped your idea(s)... | |
| Ultimate Latin Songs sheetmusic book | |
| Rick -- 02/03/2004, 11:12:20 -- #1075835540 | |
| That is definately US! Thanks guys | |
| Ryan -- 02/03/2004, 15:39:14 -- #1075851554 | |
| Copyright vs. ASCAP/BMI | |
| Under current law in the U.S., anything that you create in a tangible form is automatically copyrighted. The little display at the bottom is just a statement to that effect. What it all comes down to in the end though (if someone rips you off) is the ability to PROVE your ownership...that's why we have the Library of Congress. The cheapest way to copyright your stuff through them is to put it all in a book...call it, "Rick's Tunes" volume one or something like that. Additionally, you should keep and date any sketches of tunes and file them away...in courts when legal battles arise over this kind of thing, the lawyers (usually specialists in this area) actually start analyzing your motives and stuff. After a certain point though, it's ridiculous...because everyone is obviously influenced to a point by others! Oh, and ASCAP and BMI have absolutely nothing to do with copyright...they are performance royalty organizations that writers and publishers join in order to facilitate earnings generated when their music is performed in various medias such as radio, tv, functions, etc. Their job is to monitor all these places and document(as much as possible) all the activity of the music of it's members. This is why certain clubs, restaurants, etc. have to pay ASCAP or BMI music licensing fees in order to be able to play CD's or even have live music in their venues (the legal venues have the logos to display). So the next time you play a gig, ask the venue owner whether or not you can legally play :-)! | |
| Mike -- 02/03/2004, 16:11:49 -- #1075853509 | |
| asking the venue owner whether or not you can legally play is a good way to assure that you will never play there again. Keep in mind that Most venue owners spend a lot of time after opening their first venue shocked to find out they have to pay a fee to ascap and bmi just to turn on a radio or stereo in their Restaurant whether they have live entertainment or not. I was such an owner or venue owner at one point. And when you dont pay right away (which no venu owner does) Ascap and Bmi starts harrassing clubs. So ya ask if you can legally play and the venue owner will be more than happy to take out all his frustrations on you and never hire you again if he doesnt just kick you out on your ass pronto. | |
| Ryan -- 02/03/2004, 18:15:54 -- #1075860954 | |
| That's true...my group was in a similar situation (our regular club was being harassed by BMI), and the only reason we kept playing was because we only did originals even though they were licensed through ASCAP. I was only half serious when I said to ask...even with ASCAP and BMI, most jazz writers, even the established ones, make very little from them... | |
| smg -- 02/04/2004, 13:28:37 -- #1075930117 | |
| SheetMusicNow.com | |
| Hey Ryan,have you checked this place out?You could probably get some "activity" for your compositions there,and $-related factors are definitely involved.I'm going to get around to working w/them like I posted back a couple of weeks ago and when I do will post some specifics relating to them.....again,very impressive stuff....check out the composition section here,maybe you want to involve yourself in what's been going on there..... | |
| Ryan -- 02/04/2004, 19:23:39 -- #1075951419 | |
| Thanks | |
| Hey Gary, thanks for the link...I sent them an email, so we'll see if they respond. Looks like a nice place; that would be cool. | |
| Ultimate Latin Songs sheetmusic book | |
| sid -- 02/05/2004, 05:18:00 -- #1075987080 | |
| Recorded delivery | |
| Someone once told me the trick is to seal your composition (plus copies of sketches etc) in an envelope and mail it to yourself recorded or registered delivery. Then file the unopened package. I expect a lawyer could find some way round this, but then Lord Hutton's a lawyer, so what can you do? sid | |
| Rick -- 02/05/2004, 07:58:06 -- #1075996686 | |
| Yeah sid, I'm pretty sure thats right! Thanks! | |
| Marty -- 02/26/2004, 12:12:19 -- #1736 | |
| Hows it going rick | |
| Im trying to find out ways to harmonize the song impression you knowq by john coltrane | |
| Rick -- 02/27/2004, 02:45:43 -- #1759 | |
| Cool, harmonise in what way? harmonise the melody? An obvious starting point is to use "So What" voicings, which are basically 4 stacked fourths with a major third on top so a voicing for a D minor chord say could be- E, A, D, G, B this voicing can be moved up and down the keys in parrallel, so you could also play that voicing a tone up or down (or infact anywhere on the keyboard) over D minor and it would still sound good. If you let me know what exactly it is youre trying to do I will do my best to help! Peace Rick | |
| smg -- 02/28/2004, 08:03:09 -- #1836 | |
| re-Dave Kikoski | |
| Hey Rick,saw your replies to the thread over in LL re-DK,just wanted to let you know that if you go to SheetMusicNow.com,his compositions are on there,they let you check out the lead sheets.Also,have you heard his trio stuff like "Persistent Dreams"?..... | |
| Rick -- 02/28/2004, 16:40:05 -- #1867 | |
| Ahh, thats interesting, thanks! I only know his compositions of his trio album, the interestingly titled "Dave Kikoski", theyre not bad! I'll go check it out- thanks! By the way, if you havent heard his trio album, its worth buying just for when, during Giant Steps, the rhythm section drop out leavin him to do a blistering stride solo- amazing. The title/album Persistent Dreams doesnt ring a bell but i'll look out for it! He's amazing on Bob Berg's- Another Standard | |
| The Monty Alexander transcription collection: originals, calypso, etc... | |
| Rick -- 02/28/2004, 17:28:12 -- #1879 | |
| oh wow! i cant believe it...ive finally contributed something to this site, its crap but i said i would! Basically this is a movement for a suite I am in the middle of writing for trumpet/flugelhorn plus rhythm section. The piece is straight, not swung, its more of a "medium straight 8ths" than a latin, anyway, please have a muck about with it, you just have to imagine the band playing away lol Im recording the suite in the next few weeks, if I can find somewhere to post the mp3s (or whatever) I'd love to Hope you like my tune, it was just a quick one really, but still I quite like it Any criticisms welcome! (maybe not "i r stupid" tho...) Peace Rick | |
| Rick -- 02/28/2004, 17:29:12 -- #1880 | |
| oh yeah and I know pretty much everyone who posts on here wouldnt dream of nicking it, but there are lurkers who might...please dont :-) Its copyrighted anyway | |
| Rick -- 02/28/2004, 17:29:27 -- #1881 | |
| its not worth nicking anyway, come on...get a life LOL | |
| Rick -- 02/28/2004, 17:30:43 -- #1882 | |
| oh what the hell...it didnt work for me...anyone else have problems downloading it? | |
| albetan -- 02/28/2004, 18:03:31 -- #1884 | |
| p-chat? | |
| Hi Rick: I saw your message in p-chat. I responded, but i don't know where are you. Did you learn to upload something? What's your trouble? | |
| Scot -- 02/28/2004, 21:39:01 -- #1887 | |
| Ah, you found a bug! Illegal characters in the filename- # It breaks it. I'll make it so the system starts looking for illegal characters. | |
| The Monty Alexander transcription collection: originals, calypso, etc... | |
| Ryan -- 02/29/2004, 06:32:35 -- #1900 | |
| Charts | |
| Hey Rick, I can't access the files either...Scot says it's something with your filename? You may need to delete them and re-upload without # in the name? I'm not sure. | |
| Rick -- 03/01/2004, 07:47:40 -- #1946 | |
| Ok...take two... please could someone try and download the piece now? thanks the blurb... Basically this is a movement for a suite I am in the middle of writing for trumpet/flugelhorn plus rhythm section. The piece is straight, not swung, its more of a "medium straight 8ths" than a latin, anyway, please have a muck about with it, you just have to imagine the band playing away lol Im recording the suite in the next few weeks, if I can find somewhere to post the mp3s (or whatever) I'd love to Hope you like the piece, it was just a quick one really, but still I quite like it, I'll upload some more when I can, this was the first one I came to. Any criticisms welcome! (maybe not "i r stupid" tho...) Peace Rick | |
| johnq -- 03/01/2004, 08:00:26 -- #1950 | |
| Just gave it a go and it works !!! Nice work! | |
| Rick -- 03/01/2004, 08:02:21 -- #1951 | |
| Thanks! | |
| Rick -- 03/01/2004, 08:28:24 -- #1954 | |
| oh yeah, and hate to state the obvious, but some people might miss it- there are two pages to it as well, so you might as well print it out to make it make sense | |
| Ryan -- 03/01/2004, 17:11:01 -- #1979 | |
| Nice Tune | |
| Hey Rick, I got your tune to download! It's got a very mellow feel to it, and I really like how the ii-V's resolve up a 1/2 step to major. A few things I noticed that you might want to consider. In bar 17, just write the mode (D Phrygian). With complex chords it's usually best to just either write the mode or simple slash, but I guess that's personal opinion. In bar 18, I was a little thrown. Ab(triangle)(b9) is pretty ambiguous. How are you voicing that? Just curious. Usually in modal notation, the triangle alone indicates the 7th as well which doesn't really seem to fit that chord. I heard it as more of F/Ab...but I'm interested to see how you approached it. Finally, in bar 23, you might want to clean up your little kick notation in the bass staff. I think I get the idea, but it's best to change them to actual notated kicks and be able to see the bar divided in 2 beats as you would write your melody. You can also use Shift-Alt-4 to create the "stemmed rhythmic notes" which is usually easier to read than plain slashes. Also in that bar, I probably wouldn't write that high for a flugel as it loses it's charm in that range and is also a lot harder to play than trumpet up there...just what I've been told, but it depends on the player I suppose. Those are my picky comments, but man, overall, it's really nice. Can't wait to hear it. | |
| The Monty Alexander transcription collection: originals, calypso, etc... | |
| Rick -- 03/02/2004, 06:04:52 -- #1991 | |
| Hey Ryan, thanks for commenting, I was hoping you would. Thanks for the comments! You're right about the notation, F/Ab is easier to read and more conventional. As for bar 23, they arent meant to be kicks, just a way I thought I could notate where the chord was meant to change, as it was off the beat. Thanks for your kind words! Ive noticed that 14 people have downloaded the first page but only 8 the second...is the first really that bad? lol | |
| Whacky -- 03/02/2004, 07:35:47 -- #1995 | |
| it's very nice Rick...but for some reason my page two was blank...that may explain why not many have downloaded it...? I haven't had time to download it again or do any critique, but it looks like Ryan has done a nice job of that for you... keep writing! I wrote a little when I was in high school and some in college. I loved it! ...but I got hung up playing tons of gigs and found myself 25 or so years later not having written anything...yuck | |
| 7 -- 03/02/2004, 09:47:53 -- #1997 | |
| The DL count is a bit of a misnomer. All it means is that somebody looked at it, it doesn't mean they downloaded it to their hard drive. Myself, I had a quick peek. Saw that it was sheet music, and then clicked on the other one hoping that it was a midi file (which it isn't). While I'm actually a pretty good sight reader, I find it quicker, easier to learn from and more fun watching a midi being played on the VanBasco keyboard than reading through a manuscript. Just my preference. 7 | |
| Rick -- 03/02/2004, 11:47:00 -- #2003 | |
| Ahh, i just wish I could record midi Did anyone else have difficulties with page two? | |
| Whacky -- 03/02/2004, 11:56:01 -- #2004 | |
| Did you say you're using Sibelius? If so, you can always "save as" .mid I'll grab page two again and let you know what happens... | |
| Rick -- 03/02/2004, 11:57:59 -- #2005 | |
| aye, but its only notated as chord symbols, so that would suck | |
| The Monty Alexander transcription collection: originals, calypso, etc... | |
| Whacky -- 03/02/2004, 12:02:31 -- #2006 | |
| gotcha...sucking should be avoided at all times... page two came through just fine... nice, dark tune... | |
| Rick -- 03/02/2004, 12:15:26 -- #2007 | |
| Mwahahahaa! | |
| johnq -- 03/03/2004, 00:43:16 -- #2022 | |
| Hey Rick, Only a small point but something that was pointed out to me about some music I'd formatted when on a workshop a bit ago (Dudley Philips said it, don't know if you know him ?). I noticed that on some of the lines in your piece the package has decided to put 5 bars in a line as I suppose it fits OK. What was pointed to me was that people tend to look in 4 bar chunks when getting round a piece to start and getting to grips with the form and it's easier if the music is printed out as such. Hope this helps. John | |
| Rick -- 03/03/2004, 05:45:08 -- #2024 | |
| Yeah John you are right, I will put that right! Thanks I'm not familiar with Dudley, what does he do? Rick | |
| johnq -- 03/03/2004, 06:18:16 -- #2025 | |
| He's the bass player with Perfect Houseplants and John Paricelli's band to name but two. Went to a day thing at Nick Weldon's place and he was playing bass for the day. Said quite a few useful things. | |
| Rick -- 04/06/2004, 03:24:26 -- #3305 | |
| cheers 7, but what does that mean? lol sorry, im pretty dumb with the internet | |
| The Monty Alexander transcription collection: originals, calypso, etc... | |
| 7 -- 04/06/2004, 08:40:46 -- #3320 | |
| This way people could click on the link and go directly to your site. | |
| Rick -- 04/06/2004, 09:38:45 -- #3328 | |
| aha, I didnt know that it wouldnt take them directly...I'll change it, thanks! | |
| johnq -- 05/18/2004, 02:32:51 -- #4364 | |
| Tim Garland Voice of the North - Appleby | |
| Hey Rick, Just seen the program for Appleby and guess you'll be there with Voice of the North and Tim Garland. Should be good. Will be there all weekend so lets hope for good weather and good beer. John | |
| johnq -- 05/18/2004, 02:34:24 -- #4365 | |
| Also tried your website and shortly afterwards my virus checker detected a trojan horse in temporary internet files, so it could be that something off the page is infected | |
| sid -- 05/18/2004, 08:08:58 -- #4374 | |
| Brecon | |
| Rick/Barry/other Brits - anyone going to Brecon this year? I seem to have got two gigs there (Sat and Sun afternoons) plus one in between back in the old home town - Mr Mobile, that's me. Anyway, unless there are strong feelings about maintaining forum anonymity, I thought it might be amusing to share a glass of warm lager if you're around. sid | |
| Rick -- 05/19/2004, 13:43:36 -- #4419 | |
| thats cool Sid, Wales is it? Congrats at getting the gigs! When is it on? | |
| The Monty Alexander transcription collection: originals, calypso, etc... | |
| Rick -- 05/19/2004, 13:43:55 -- #4420 | |
| yup John, did a gig last night with him, his music is amazing but so so hard! | |
| sid -- 05/20/2004, 01:20:09 -- #4431 | |
| Brecon | |
| It's 13-15 August. The program isn't announced yet but they usually have plenty of heavyweights. Brecon is about an hour north of Cardiff. It's a weird place for a festival (seeing the Mingus Big Band at work in a Welsh Market Hall is a surreal experience) but it seems to work. Anyway, that's where I'll be on the Saturday and Sunday afternoons, so if any of the LJP fraternity are around, why not say hello. sid | |
| sid -- 05/20/2004, 01:20:18 -- #4432 | |
| Brecon | |
| It's 13-15 August. The program isn't announced yet but they usually have plenty of heavyweights. Brecon is about an hour north of Cardiff. It's a weird place for a festival (seeing the Mingus Big Band at work in a Welsh Market Hall is a surreal experience) but it seems to work. Anyway, that's where I'll be on the Saturday and Sunday afternoons, so if any of the LJP fraternity are around, why not say hello. sid | |
| zcott -- 05/20/2004, 07:24:39 -- #4442 | |
| On the subject of festivals, is anyone going to Wigan in July? | |
| johnq -- 05/21/2004, 00:36:15 -- #4486 | |
| I've just bought a Rover ticket for Wigan so I'll be there for most of it I guess. Curious to see Jimmy Smith (a very early influence as my Dad is mad on him). Never seen Dave Brubeck either. Lynn Ariale is interesting too. | |
| johnq -- 05/21/2004, 01:42:58 -- #4488 | |
| You're not involved with UYJO are you ? Just had a thought as you originate from Belfast. I know they're on on the Sunday lunchtime. | |
| The Monty Alexander transcription collection: originals, calypso, etc... | |
| zcott -- 05/23/2004, 09:34:11 -- #4531 | |
| Yes, I am involved with the UYJO, we're really looking forward to playing! Unfortunately we're leaving the day after so I won't get to see Jimmy Smith or Dave Brubeck, but I'm going down to London to see Chick Corea. :D | |
| Rick -- 05/24/2004, 08:17:51 -- #4543 | |
| yo Zcott... | |
| still wondering what you meant about linley! | |
| Rick -- 07/10/2004, 12:42:04 -- #5549 | |
| Cheers 7, nope it looks like I cant upload mp3s unless I pay money to upgrade, which I really should do. Right now I havent had the time to find any sites (free mp3 hosters) which work for me, all the ones which Ive tried have crashed or gone wrong whilst uploading. I think my best option is to try and send some files via an instant messenger (MSN seems the best). If you have one, id love to send you some stuff! Take care and thanks again for the message Rick | |
| Rick -- 07/10/2004, 13:08:04 -- #5555 | |
| sorry folks, ignore that | |
| 7 -- 07/10/2004, 17:20:06 -- #5566 | |
| The guy that hosts my site charges a mere $35 a year for 50MB (at the rate I'm uploading mp3s I'm going to run out of room pretty soon though). http://www.coastlandtech.com/ 7 | |
| yijie -- 09/04/2004, 18:53:10 -- #6938 | |
| Well, music.download.com and mp3.com hosts sites and gives you 50MB for songs. If you want to host your site, you can try the spymac service(www.spymac.com),it gives you 100MB | |
| The Monty Alexander transcription collection: originals, calypso, etc... | |
| Jono -- 12/24/2004, 07:19:56 -- #9855 | |
| Hello There | |
| Hi there Rick, I couldn't help noticing from your past posts that you are from (and in) the UK and are studying at the Guildhall. How are you finding the course? I have just been offered a place on the jazz course at trinity college which I am rather chuffed about. | |
| Rick -- 01/01/2005, 12:45:46 -- #10042 | |
| Hey Jono, good to hear about Trinity, its a lovely place. The course at Ghall is really intensive, in the first term they throw so much shit at you its scary, but its all worth it. The classical side is good and not as much as people think, and Simon Purcell is a wicked teacher. Only drawback--its a lousy building. GOod luck at trinity! | |
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