Scot Ranney's LearnJazzPiano.com archive: Larsen's Cabin

LearnJazzPiano.com archives: Larsen's Cabin
docz -- 05/20/2004, 08:46:54 -- #4444
Hello, and welcome to my cabin!
Hello, I've created this room to post some files that I've compiled through the years. Some may not be directly relevant to Jazzpiano, but they are related.
docz -- 05/20/2004, 08:48:28 -- #4445
Joe Pass 1-6-2-5 changes
The first post I will make is the compilation of the 1-6-2-5 changes that Joe Pass uses in his training video. Under each chord is the notes that Joe Pass uses in his playing. I've watched his chords and that is what I have gathered from watching the tabs on the screen and the fingerings he uses on his guitar. Offcourse some of theese chords structures are pretty basic, Joe Pass himself says "I always use pretty basic structures, I don't want to play difficult things, if it's difficult, forget it, by the time you get the fingering right you don't have enough time to do the rest, so I always use many common tones in my chords". You may offcourse embellish theese chords to your own liking. DocZ
7 -- 05/20/2004, 09:18:55 -- #4447

DocZ, From your liberal use of the note "H", one must assume that you are German. The use of "H" will be very confusing to non-German speakers. Please go back and change all your H's to B's. 7 Note to all non-German speakers: In the German system of music they use: H = "hard B" = B natural B = "soft B" = B flat
smg -- 05/20/2004, 12:28:06 -- #4463

I'd be interested in whatever R+B stuff you have........
docz -- 05/20/2004, 13:50:46 -- #4469
Ah, offcourse, I will fix
Ah offcourse, :) I'm not german, I'm norwegian, and yes we use that german system. Why don't ask me, I usually use the ABCDEFG form, however for this file I did it in the AHCDEFG form. I will fix it :) Sorry for any inconvinience Doc-Z
Maybeck Recital Hall Series: Walter Norris: three handed monster!
docz -- 05/20/2004, 13:57:39 -- #4470
Small licks and nick nacks
The next posts are some really basic bluesy licks and bass lines. For intermediate and advanced players theese might not be interesting, but for pianists just starting out, and want some licks instead of scales to put in their improvisations it might be of some use. I tried to time them as much as I could, I used Sibelius, but it's hard to get all the pushes and pulls correct, so they might be slightly off time. A tip that has been posted earlier on this site is to use VanBasco's karaoke player, it shows you which keys are played while you listen to it, it can also reduce tempo and transpose to other keys. It works with midi files. I've played theese in the key of C, but they can easilly be transposed to most of the 12 keys. DocZ
docz -- 05/21/2004, 00:59:14 -- #4487
Soul and R&B stuff
Just postet a file with some tips on playing soul and r+b, offcourse there might be other aproaches, this is merely how I play. And imho it works :) Doc-Z
albetan -- 05/21/2004, 05:52:53 -- #4497
Welcome to LJP, Doc-Z
After our long discussion about substitutes i see this new room. Then i saw i was not speaking with a beginner. Welcome your norwegian and universal thougths about jazz. Good luck with your new room.
docz -- 05/21/2004, 06:56:00 -- #4499
Thanks Albetan :)
Thank you :) No I'm not a beginner. I've played piano for 20 of my 25 years. However I have only played by ear. I have only one year of classical training, or if you might call it that :) My piano teacher didn't understand how I was able to play what I did, and therefore he concluded that I was doing everything wrong, and said I had to start from scratch. I was 13 at the time, and he started me out with "Mary had a little Lamb" or here in Norway we call it "Donald har en racerbil" or in English: "Donald's got a racercar" :). And after learning the first passage of "Für Elise" I quit. I was frustrated by the conflicting way of his teaching of the classical approach and the style that I had adapted myself over the previous eight years. After that I decided to keep using my ear, and pick up whatever advice I could find in the future. And this has gotten me to the place I am today, and this knowledge is what I'm passing on here in this room, so that I can give something back to others who might find it interesting. As well as sucking the knowledge out of all the talented and intelligent people here on this forum. :) I've always been interested in jazz, and I have always had a Jazzy approach to everything I play, but it's not until recently I decided to start to learn this the right way. There are countless times that me, my brother and my father has listened to some old jazz tune, played by one of the greats. Like Errol Garner, Thelonious Monk etc. And said "How the hell does he do that?" "What on earth are those chords?" and then when we found the lead sheet, and saw the chords, they don't sound right. But this site has helped me alot in understanding the essence of jazz piano, and that is something I am grateful for. It's cool to know that there is so much cool stuff that I have ahead of me, in ways of learning. New ways of improvisation, ways of playing etc. Cheers! Doc-Z
smg -- 05/21/2004, 07:26:13 -- #4502

Look at it like this man..there are a lot of cats like yourself that were impacted negatively by some %%**&&@@!! teacher like that and stopped thinking in terms of learning with the help of another person..but having the benefit of this type of sitution when the teacher is a player who sees what kind of natural ability a player has and knows what to suggest is a good thing and we try to do that here....I'm wondering if,now that you're an adult,there might not be a person that could do this over there where you are..any players in your town???
docz -- 05/21/2004, 11:29:29 -- #4507

Yeah I know. There are probably a lot of players in my town. But there is no special scene here. Even though it's a large town (by Norwegian standards that is, approx 30,000 people), you have to be in the capitol constantly in the music scene, which is a pretty rotten scene here in Norway. The really good players are all employed on TV, in bands or other places, and do not have time to do anything other than playing. But offcourse one can learn a lot even though the musician isn't the best in the world. A lot of the licks and tricks I've learned is something that a student of mine has picked up, or something I heard from some keyboard player in a danceband (a type of band that's native to Scandinavia, it's basically bad translations of country & western songs, performed by guys in suits, trying to be Frank Sinatra, and they call it swing... Which is really anoying, because country and swing are two differen't things). I had a gig once on a boat in the mediteranian. Me and my brother was in a band. We both played piano, I had this old rhodes, great sound though. And there was this old guy who played before us on a grand piano. He taught me "Over the rainbow", I don't know what stuff I'm doing when I play that, I just do what he taught me, and it sounds cool, maybe I can post a midi here later, and someone might tell me what I'm doing, so that I can apply it to other songs. :) I've also learned a lot from playing in bands, and playing more than one instrument. I play piano, organ or anything else with keys on it, acordion, guitar, bass, saxophone, and harmonica, which has helped me to understand the differen't places each instrument has. I've also studied with a vocal coach and classical song for 2 years which has helped improve my ear. And I still have the rest of my life to try to learn as much as I can about music :). The only jazz thing in my town that I know of is every christmas theres a Jam session, however I've never had the guts to go there, I don't think I have the "chops" to be there. But maybe next christmas.. who knows.. I will check those tunes you mentioned in the other room out over the weekend, maybe I'll get something that's usable, I don't know :) I've memorized that violin solo in the beginning of survivor, so maybe I could start by posting that. Fallin is a real easy, it's basically two chords the whole song, but you can offcourse swap some chords and make it more interesting. I will check it out and get back to it later :) Cheers! Doc-Z
Maybeck Recital Hall Series: Walter Norris: three handed monster!
smg -- 05/21/2004, 12:04:05 -- #4509

"I don't think I have the "chops" to be there" I'd substitute for just a general orientation towards finding a player to work with,not specifically at this or other jam sessions but in general..get in touch with some of these players in your town,see if they're coming from where we are re-attitude,and take it from there....from what you describe you're probably over-developed in some areas these type of "schooled" cats would like to be.....
docz -- 05/22/2004, 11:16:47 -- #4523
Alicia Keys Fallin'
Here are the files. Enjoy :) Doc-Z
smg -- 05/22/2004, 11:17:06 -- #4524
hey thanks for all that man
I'm going to listen to/look at it ASAP....
docz -- 05/22/2004, 13:01:00 -- #4526

good to be of service :) Cheers! :) Doc-Z
Scot -- 05/24/2004, 13:45:01 -- #4557
Great room!
Doc-Z Thanks for making this room and posting your stuff here. I looked at some of the files- very cool indeed! Keep up the great work. Thanks, Scot
docz -- 05/25/2004, 08:58:45 -- #4574

Thanks Scot, just trying to give something back :) Cheers mate doc-z
Maybeck Recital Hall Series: Walter Norris: three handed monster!
docz -- 07/10/2004, 03:18:58 -- #5541
New blues file.
Hey I just uploaded a file showing some theory on using parallel key structures for improvising in blues. Check it out. Doc-Z
docz -- 08/04/2004, 05:51:01 -- #6243
Ok Here they are
Due to several request, I have uploaded the Elton John file, with some examples. Enjoy! :) Doc-Z
docz -- 08/04/2004, 16:59:17 -- #6258
Elton John stuff
Ok I posted the Elton John stuff that was requested. Listen to my examples, that will give you an idea of what I am trying to explain in the text file. Now Elton John is a good pianist, and theese are just mere tricks to sound Eltonish, it's not supposed to be a reference to how he actually plays. Doc-Z
Akram Maximos -- 08/05/2004, 04:27:54 -- #6267

Thank you so much Doc-z. It's really appreciated.
docz -- 08/06/2004, 01:03:58 -- #6304

Thank you, glad to be of service. Any questions, let me know ok? Doc-Z
docz -- 09/08/2004, 17:32:22 -- #7027
If there are questions....
if anyone have any questions, requests, suggestions, please don't hessitate to ask.. DocZ
Maybeck Recital Hall Series: Walter Norris: three handed monster!
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