LearnJazzPiano.com archives: gospel music
blackyoshi -- 04/07/2005, 02:03:41 -- #12546
hey i was wondering if oyu guys could give me tips on playing gospel music on like a reuglar christian msuic piece like Lord I lift your name on high (chords are pretty much GCDC over and over again except for a Bm in the second to last line of the verse replacing the D). Thanks.

dr1keyz -- 04/07/2005, 02:58:17 -- #12547
Gospel is just like any other music...You learn the most by listening and playing.  Contemporary gospel is pretty much the same as jazz. If you listen to any new gospel, the progressions, the chords, and the licks are jazz oriented.  Now, christian music (which is not the same as gospel) is a little bit easier because you have a lot of 1-4-5 chords but it is all about a feel. If you wanna check out some goood cristian/gospel music, listen to Isreal and New breed, Kim burrell, kirk franklin.  If you want old school gospel, listen to james cleveland, mahalia jackson, etc. Hope it helped. I could give you some tight gospel voicings, but it is more of a feel.

blackyoshi -- 04/07/2005, 04:29:25 -- #12549
oh. could you give me some tight gospel voicings anywaY?

dr1keyz -- 04/07/2005, 12:51:42 -- #12564
Give me a tune and ill give you some nice voicings.

blackyoshi -- 04/07/2005, 15:08:10 -- #12569
how bout the one i mentioned already haha "Lord I Lift Your Name on High" (GCDC over and over again pretty much)

Dr. Whack -- 04/07/2005, 15:28:42 -- #12570
here's some I used to use on that one:

GBDG  (G)

GCDG  (C)

ADF#G  (D)

this particular tune doesn't cry out for fancy jazz chords and extensions although I added some sort of contemporary concepts

dr1keyz -- 04/07/2005, 16:37:56 -- #12571
Ok...

(LH)G and D     (RH) A B D G   ..lord i
(LH)B D# and A  (RH) A D G     lift you name on
(LH) C G and E *the 10th   (RH)A D G B   ...high  
C Sus (passing) or you can us a 2-5
I didnt do the bridge because that is a lot to typpe but i can do that for you later. The song originally is 1, 4,and 5 but I changed it to 1, 3,4,5 ..so Check it out.


Or another approach is:

(LH)E B F#  (RH) A B D F#   Lord i
(LH)D A F   (RH) G C E G  ..Lift your...
(LH)G F     (RH) B E A    ...name on
(LH)C G E   (RH) A D G B  ...High

Hope thhis help ..sorry if the voicings are to wide by had=nds are very big so if you cant reach the 10th in the LH then you could just play the 3rd but If you are playing by yourself, the 10th has more depth.

Dr. Whack -- 04/07/2005, 17:32:00 -- #12572
If you do dr1keyz stuff, be sure you're playing with a bass player that can follow you or... discuss it ahead of time that your going to do the B7...

I like to start simpler, like the voicings I listed above, then maybe stretch out to what dr1keyz suggested later on as you build intensity.  If you start out to thick or to fancy, you won't have anywhere to go later.  Those types of extensions/vocings are really cool when they're a surprise:)

~just my thoughts

Billy -- 04/07/2005, 21:49:32 -- #12578
i like to add in some filler chords to songs like that, or else i get bored with them.

G
C
D

Now, before going back to the G again, i do this chord or something similar:
BA/EbGAD - B7#5#9

I like the sound of that chord just before going back into the G. You might also do BA/EbGAC - B7#5b9 or any type of B7alt really.

dr1keyz -- 04/09/2005, 01:24:26 -- #12632
Actually the whole G to the B7 is a very well know and accepted gospel arrangement of the tune.

blackyoshi -- 04/09/2005, 03:48:43 -- #12635
hm I'm trying out the B7 and its totally not working. coudl you guys like make a .midi file of lord i lift your name on high gospelized? thanks for hte help though.

Dr. Whack -- 04/09/2005, 09:41:17 -- #12642
I agree that the G - B7 is accepted, but you can't assume all or most players ins churches are that hip.  A lot of times church bands are staffed with non-pro volunteers.  Those folks may think you're playing "wrong notes" if you're not careful:)

blackyoshi, if you're going to use the B7 you'll have to alter the chord progression like dr1keyz exmple above or do something like

G  B7  C  D

Remember that the B7 should have a #5 to accomodate the melody.  Just experiment, you'll get the hang of it

blackyoshi -- 04/09/2005, 22:21:12 -- #12662
hm. I tried it out and its still sounds like its clashing with the meldoy but i'm over it. Do you guys know like any crazy gospel licks i could play on this tune? Haha sory for aksing all these questions thanks for help.

jazz jasper -- 04/10/2005, 20:01:01 -- #12683
Have you ever heard of kate simmonds?  Her music is basically jazz/gospel, and some of the music is written out as it is played on the recordings, so you get a good idea of where to start.  Try going to www.katesimmonds.com.  Try and listen to some samples, some are more jazz based than others.  Some of the changes are nice, if you want to know any of them after hearing the recordings, let me know.

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