| LearnJazzPiano.com archives: ear training | |
| asteffen -- 04/08/2005, 02:23:17 -- #12586 | |
| I am interested in what You guys are doing for Your ears. I still have problems recocgnizing chords in a playing situtation, although I get them when they are played isolated on a piano. In down beat I found an advertisement to a method for getting a perfect pitch. Can one take this serious? Please check my webpage. www.milesdavisapotheke.de . And look into the music section, where I placed some mp3s from my highschool days. I would be grateful for any message in my guestbook.Andreas. | |
| Dr. Whack -- 04/08/2005, 09:48:05 -- #12593 | |
| That was high school? wow! You are a talented dude. I wouldn't worry too much about your ears if I were you:) I seem to have this "gift" but it doesn't really make me anymore creative, in fact I'm wondering if it might inhibit my creativity? But I really think the two have nothing to do with each other. Can it be developed? We've had discussions here before, but I tend to think it can be. It seems to me to be a memory issue. For some reason I remember and recognize pitches. Perhaps I was drawn to that type of listening when I was young? Much like we recognize the sound of different people's voices, I think we can learn to recognize pitches...easy for me to say, because i can do it, but it seems to be logical. In a group situation there are more things goin on. You may have to fine-tune your listen skills a bit. I will say however, that as I get older (and I have a pretty bad ear infection in my recent past) I don't always hear as keenly as I used to...but maybe this is because I'm too busy and distracted nowadays to listen as I used to...hmmm I'm looking forward to hearing more of your stuff! | |
| sdm -- 04/08/2005, 13:20:00 -- #12595 | |
| Wow! I second the good doctor on your talents. Nice! I'd take a tin ear if I could play like that. | |
| Scot -- 04/08/2005, 13:43:57 -- #12600 | |
| I enjoy your music, thanks for sharing the link. What do I do to work on my ear? I do some transcriptions sometimes, I do a lot of composing, I do a lot of singing (in private!). In the past I did a LOT of transcribing, but not of solos, of melodies and chord progressions. | |
| beanabus -- 04/08/2005, 13:56:36 -- #12605 | |
| Sorry can't play you link. There's Ear training and Ear training. Music can be listened to and interpreted in many different ways. Rather than learing to recognise chords in isolation, why don't you sing arpeggios of common chord sequences? e.g. II-7 - V7 - IM7 IM7 - IV-7 - bVII7 - IM7 IM7 - V-7 - I7 - IVM7 Sing all the common substiutions. You can do it on the bus or in the car. That will get you used to recognising chords in context. perfect pitch, is from what I hear, a mixed blessing. Not sure about the courses. Somebody should try and verify them scientifically. | |
| 7 -- 04/08/2005, 14:14:34 -- #12607 | |
| I think what you wer asking about when you said "I still have problems recocgnizing chords in a playing situtation" is hearing (for example) when the I chord moves to the IV, or when the I chord moves to the V, or when the I chord moves to the vim, etc. In this case the recognition is not so much one of chord quality but one of root motion. On the chording instruments (guitar, piano) one plays root voicings only a percentage of the time, most of the time you're dealing with some other inversion/voicing. I learned how to recognize chord changes by hosting jam sessions and consequently I'd have to follow/accompany a large range of incommunicative fools. You have to be on your toes. I would suggest getting a friend (possibly a guitarist) to play predetermined changes in different keys that contrast more or less directly while you are "blindfolded". What I mean is set up an exercise that contrasts the I->IV change vs the I->V change. And set up an exercise that contrasts I->vim vs I->iiim, etc, etc... Once you can successfully distinguish between pairs like above, the next logical step is to move to common progressions: I -> IV -> I -> V I -> vim -> iim -> V etc... Good Luck! | |
| LarryC -- 04/08/2005, 15:08:27 -- #12613 | |
| My brother-in-law got tat ear training course for Christmas. When I saw him the next day he was raving about what he had listened to so far. I don't see him that often and when I do, I always forget to ask him now that it's three month later. He was going to let me borrow it when he got through with it....I may see him Sunday so I try to remember to ask. Larry | |
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