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bavern -- 07/08/2005, 06:02:16 -- #16281
Is Gadd9 the same as G9?

Dr. Whack -- 07/08/2005, 06:59:58 -- #16282
No.  Gadd9 is a G triad with an added "A",  same as Gadd2

G9  includes all the chord tones through the 9th:

GBDFA

albetan -- 07/08/2005, 07:00:21 -- #16283
Gadd9 = G B D A
G9    = G B D F A
GM9   = G B D F# A
Gm9   = G Bb D F A

sdm -- 07/08/2005, 11:01:54 -- #16290
OK so is that the same as G+9?

SolArt -- 07/08/2005, 11:14:22 -- #16291
No. However, in this chord (G+9) we get into a bit of confusion regarding the symbol.

Is it Gaug9? if so = G B D# F A

Is it G7+9     "   = G B D# F A#, but most commonly played B F A#

bavern -- 07/09/2005, 03:49:18 -- #16308
Okey Thanks

sdm -- 07/09/2005, 12:52:29 -- #16333
So it is a raised 5th and a raised 9th.  Best voicing 3 7 +9.  Thanks, this always stumps me at first.

7 -- 07/09/2005, 14:24:22 -- #16335
sdm,

You're still confused. And rightly so.

It is NOT both a #5 and a #9.

The symbol G+9 is very confusing, which is what SolArt was trying to say.

In fact I have never seen a chart with that symbol in it, and I doubt anyone else here has either. Where did you see that symbol?

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The most common voicing for a G7+9 (aka G7#9) is B F A# (3 b7 #9).

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Let's take a step back:

If one saw the symbol G+7, it would most likely be interpreted as a G7#5 (G B D# F). However, it is most often seen as G7+ or G7+5.

The "plus sign" (+) AFTER the 7 is in order to avoid the confusion inherent in the chord symbol you refer to.

However, if you found that chord symbol G+7 commonly used in a chart, it would make perfect sense that the chord symbol G+9 would indicate the more common symbols G9#5 (aka G9+ or G9+5).

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SolArt -- 07/09/2005, 16:42:35 -- #16338
Oops, my mistake, a G7+9 has NO +5!

sdm -- 07/11/2005, 08:50:36 -- #16378
And of course I did mean G7+9 so not an augmented but rather the rasied 9th (only).  Thanks - less confused now (I think!).

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