LearnJazzPiano.com archives: Acid Jazz Changes
jazz jasper -- 08/06/2006, 18:49:31 -- #29126
Hi,

I listened to the most amazing acid jazz band today, and i didnt get a chance to ask about the changes that they used.  Does anyone have any common acid jazz changes, if anyone has listened to jamiroquai they will know what i mean, (i know they use cycle of 5ths in one of there famous songs - virtual insanity)  But if you could give me some common chord changes and how to go about getting that amazing groove and sound from a band when playing acid jazz id be really grateful!

Thanks

Jazz

d3dy -- 08/08/2006, 03:32:18 -- #29126
PAy attention to the rhytm and the sincopation...
also the 9th chord strummed combined with dead notes played by the guitarist...

jazz jasper -- 08/10/2006, 13:26:47 -- #29126
Thanks I'll have a good listen to rhythm etc, do you have any sequences, for example I know that a 2-5 is used and then played up a semitone, for example Em7 - A7 - Fm7 - Bb7, do you have any other common chord progressions?  

Thanks

Styles -- 08/17/2006, 15:20:55 -- #29126
Alot of Acid Jazz uses alot of unconventional chord changes to achieve a more wider field of sound as opposed to the common linear changes that dominate traditional jazz.

The fact that DJs, who know nothing of jazz harmony, simply cut and splice-- creating songs that may not include a single 2-5-1, but just simply sound good.

Try creating a melody and voicing jazz chords around the melody. You can create very interesting chord progressions this way.
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Also delve into modes. Some modes can allow you to fake chord progressions, although you never actually make any chord changes at all.

For example- the harmonic minor scale. If you build diatonic chords from each degree of the scale and write a song with those chords, you'll find that any tone in the scale can be played at any time!

Some Acid Jazz songs make use of this, bridging the medium between what casual fans can appreciate (a faux harmonically static song), and what jazz soloists can effectively excercise chops on.
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You could also try paralel chords progressions and do a micro 2-5-1. A technique sort of like tritone substitution.

For example- you could go

Dmin7, Fmaj7, Abmaj7
Gmin7,Bmaj7,Eb7
Cmaj7

That's off the top of my head so it may require some altering tones to sound good.
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jazz jasper -- 08/17/2006, 18:30:04 -- #29126
Hey Styles, thanks so much i really appreciate it, thats helped out alot, if you have any more knowlage on the subject Id love to hear it, thanks again,

Jaz

sasko -- 02/25/2008, 05:34:46 -- #29126
JazzJasper -amazing groove and sound from the band
Related to Jamiro

Listen to
chords from intro - cosmic girl
BDEG
BC#EA
CEbGC
CEbF#B
pay atention on the rythm of rhodes.
It comes very well with the drum track.

So in a short way , where there's a spare place in btwn the drums , the keyboard sits there.
The bass track also.
that makes that funky good groove.
The choice of notes makes acid sound.
Listen to live version of cosmic girl  - more acid
Hope this helps ,
Hey , I'm new in that acid thing , maybe I'm wrong ...

jazz jasper -- 02/25/2008, 17:11:47 -- #29126
Hey Sasko

Thanks very much for that info, I really enjoy Jamiroquai Im starting to work on getting to the bottom of the theory behind it and how to keep up to date with it all.

Any other advice would be very welcome even though the post is 1 year and 6 months old Im till trying to get to the bottom of it!

Thanks

Jazz

smg -- 02/27/2008, 14:21:15 -- #29126
re-above progressions-

Styles,could you give me an example of how you'd use those chords rhythmically?

Sasko-nice progresssion,I'm assuming the roots are G/A/C/D?

Santeven -- 03/17/2008, 18:57:32 -- #29126
d3dy,
or any one else,
What is a dead note?
Does it derive from The Grateful Dead?

7 -- 03/17/2008, 20:12:58 -- #29126
A dead note is a muted note

Jazz+ -- 03/18/2008, 13:12:24 -- #29126
Herbie Hancock's changes:

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