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| mstore -- 09/17/2006, 15:11:11 -- #29870 | |
| This is a recording from my jazz band... I´m obviossely the piano player... http://www.nic.fi/~jazzy/ I would like to know what to improve and the overall impression that you people get on my soloing and comping. It would also nice to know if there are other players that i sound like... ? i´m talking about the phrazing. thanx in advance | |
| Jazz+ -- 09/17/2006, 21:55:35 -- #29870 | |
| Sounds good. But, the thing I recommend to you is to play more on top of the beat during your solo. Tt sounds like you sometimes lay or drag back from the beat too far during your solo. The end of your lines tend to get behind the pulse, especialy after you come out of the double time sixteenth notes. Playing too far behind the beat can make your lines sound as if they lack drive and excitement. Also be aware more of the target notes you end your lines with, put a rhythmic punch line at the end of your statments so they won't sound like run on sentances. Check out how Parker ended his phrases. | |
| Jazz+ -- 09/17/2006, 21:57:14 -- #29870 | |
| If you can tighten up the timing you will be pretty good. Your note choices are much better than the guitar players. | |
| jazz jasper -- 09/18/2006, 06:08:10 -- #29870 | |
| What lovely voicings, can you tell me what voicings you are using to comp | |
| bavern -- 09/18/2006, 09:02:50 -- #29870 | |
| svensk? | |
| mstore -- 09/19/2006, 10:55:55 -- #29870 | |
| how do you send personal messages in this forum??? Jazz jasper: what voicing are you talking about? | |
| CynBad -- 09/19/2006, 11:04:31 -- #29870 | |
| What kind of voicings are you using to comp? That's what voicings. | |
| jazz jasper -- 09/19/2006, 11:55:49 -- #29870 | |
| Yeah, on the head and behind the solo's particularly on the head. | |
| thejaffer -- 09/19/2006, 12:50:10 -- #29870 | |
| Nice. I like it. Especially the voicings you use and the beginning of your solo. Very focussed and clear ideas. I personally really like the 'behind the beat' phrasing you use. It works particularly well at the beginning of the solo, because it's very consistent. ie. the realationship between your beat and the actually pulse is always the same. The only problem is when the time-feel wobbles (as jazz+ points out at the end of 16th note runs and toward the end of phrases). There's a great exercise in Hal Crook's method book where you use a metronome and experiment with playing 1)on the beat 2) on top of the beat 3) behind the beat. Each one of these is perfectly ok and each has a different emotional character, a different groove. What's important is that your relationship to the pulse is always consistent. You have to be in effortless control of the pulse and your time-feel at all times. Look at the great ryhthm sections throughout history. Hancock-Carter-Williams and Kelly-Chambers-Philly Joe to name two.. They don't necessarily agree on where the pulse is (tony williams is always way on top, Carter is always dead center) but they're relationship to it (where they place the beat everytime) and each other is always the same. That's why they sound so great! | |
| thejaffer -- 09/19/2006, 12:52:31 -- #29870 | |
| Just to add that you can do a lot worse than practising scales in 8th notes, triplets, 16 notes to a metronome, until you no longer have to think about the time. Record yourself and see if it sounds the way you want. | |
| mstore -- 09/19/2006, 14:16:41 -- #29870 | |
| well,, i use standard open voicings, iversions of the "so what chord" and voicings from the diminsished scale. I find it hard to explain what i do, maybe i can explain what voicing i use better i get the "location" of the chord... | |
| mstore -- 09/19/2006, 14:17:51 -- #29870 | |
| hey,, could you guys comment on the other players as well...? especially the trumpet player... | |
| Hush -- 09/19/2006, 14:24:01 -- #29870 | |
| Sorry for the question but...what standard was that??? I now i have hear it and even play it with a friend of mine but my memory is blocked right now. Nice playing... | |
| mstore -- 09/19/2006, 14:38:16 -- #29870 | |
| it is: have you met ms Jones | |
| jazz jasper -- 09/20/2006, 03:57:42 -- #29870 | |
| Thanks, Im still not 100% sure what you mean by location. When you say inversons of the so what chord do you mean for D minor, you play D, G, C, F, A, and then invert it to, G, C, F, A, D, and so on depending on the melody note? | |
| mstore -- 09/20/2006, 04:06:42 -- #29870 | |
| Jazz jasper: yes.. for instance. the so what voicing is very interesting since it can be used in many ways... and it is pentatonic. try playing it from Db and change the inversion. You will see that it follows the black keys. Try using other base notes to the voicing and you will find very many interesting combinations...maybe you should transcribe me... haha... | |
| jazz jasper -- 09/20/2006, 05:59:23 -- #29870 | |
| Ha, yeah right! | |
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