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elvis79 -- 09/22/2006, 10:48:14 -- #29979
Thoughts on this one..? http://www.nic.fi/~jazzy3/emet/ This is my stride piano take on Ain't misbehavin. Feel free to give me some suggestions on how to improve my playing.
loveforJAZZ -- 09/22/2006, 11:52:18 -- #29979
That's a cool BlUesY piece of Fats Waller. Do you have a transciption of it?
7 -- 09/23/2006, 11:01:08 -- #29979
Feel free to give me some suggestions on how to improve my playing. Instead you should be offering suggestions to others on how to improve THEIR playing. It's clear that you spent time and effort listening to Fats and learning his principles, and yet you still speak with your own voice. Very impressive.
albetan -- 09/23/2006, 14:51:00 -- #29979
You, Elvis, have done a master class over a classical standard. I enjoyed it a lot!
wdennissorrell -- 09/23/2006, 14:51:07 -- #29979
Damn straight 7, great job Elvis. Peace out!
albetan -- 09/23/2006, 15:16:47 -- #29979
Sorry, Elvis, but this recording was performed by Fats Waller & his Continental Rhythm in Album Ain't Misbehavin' ASV/ Living Era. I saw it in Windows Media and also in Winamp. It is not right to steal a great performance from a Jazz Idol. I'm sorry for my last post!
elvis79 -- 09/24/2006, 04:49:44 -- #29979
Whenever I record a standard and add it in my hard drive windows automaticly retrieves the original full title for the song. I don't know why it does so and it's quite annoying too... Fats' last recording on "Ain't misbehavin´" was from 1943 - the year of his death. This piece is recorded in 2006 in a modern studio and I'm surprised you - albetan w - did not notice this... I do not steal other performances, however I do borrow them occasionally :D But how else am I to learn..?
albetan -- 09/24/2006, 06:45:08 -- #29979
Whenever You record a standard, Elvis, appears info that You write there. Whenever You record a standard from a recording, your hard drive automatically retrieves the original full title and info for the song. In Winamp Info of your recording I find: Title: Ain't misbehavin' Artist: Fats Waller & His Continental Rhythm Album: Ain't Misbehavin' [ASV/Living Era] Year: 1995 So this recording was published in 1995 and with this Info it is an original performance of Fats Waller, as I may understand.
albetan -- 09/24/2006, 07:08:31 -- #29979
You may hear the original Waller's performance in this link: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/fatswaller2 There You hear the old sound of 40's, and sound of your recording, Elvis, is more modern. I like to understand this mystery...
mstore -- 09/24/2006, 13:42:21 -- #29979
albetan: I know elvis79 personally and i can guarantee you that it is him self playing. another of his tracks had the artist name "keiji hano" There must have been some odd problem with the cd to mp3 converter...
jazz jasper -- 09/25/2006, 04:02:07 -- #29979
Yeah but what is the point, I could play that piece just as well if I was reading off the page just like elvis is, you may as well play some beethoven and ask how to improve on that, im sure that evlis is playing but it sounds like he is reading off an exact transcription of the original, which anyone can do with practice.
antiJV -- 09/25/2006, 04:05:05 -- #29979
My comments are that you should come up with your own 'take' on a song and not copy it off a record, its clearly not your 'take' its a transcription of the original.
JL -- 09/25/2006, 08:26:18 -- #29979
"it sounds like he is reading off an exact transcription of the original" "its clearly not your 'take' its a transcription of the original" Umm.. did you guys even listen to both versions? Elvis's performance is clearly NOT identical to the Waller performance albetan posted, not even close. Unless you guys are referring to some other recording Waller made that IS the same, but I doubt one exists. And albetan -- given the sound quality, this is obviously not an actual Fats Waller recording done in the 1940's. I don't know Elvis, but it just bothers me that everyone's so quick to cry foul play in light of a good musical performance.
Scot -- 09/25/2006, 08:38:00 -- #29979
Nothing wrong with learning from a piece of sheetmusic, that's how I learned a lot of great solo piano voicings and licks. I would say that the biggest thing that needs to be worked on is the time in some parts. I felt that when things got more complex, time seemed to slip a bit. I would also note that sometimes, and I'm not sure how the sheetmusic sounds, but I would have liked to hear some more of those mid-register notes being held out a bit longer in the left hand thumb and such. As for the performance as a whole, I rather enjoyed it. Nice hands, good walking beat, the seeds of great stride. Regarding the comments about this being Fat's playing and such, it's obviously NOT Fat Waller playing this music. To keep confusion to a minimum, instead of saying, "This is my stride piano take on Ain't misbehavin." simply tell it how it is. "This is my take on a Fats Waller transcription of Ain't Misbehavin'."
albetan -- 09/25/2006, 09:59:44 -- #29979
The confusion point here is: the info that appears in reproduction media, as I expressed in post 30008. In my post 30010 I give a link about the original Waller’s take… And it is not the same as Elvis performance. There’s difference between the old sound of 40’s and the modern sound of Elvis’ recording. I’m in accordance with JL in post 30036: “And albetan -- given the sound quality, this is obviously not an actual Fats Waller recording done in the 1940's. Mstore’s testimony (post 30017) is valuable for me: “ albetan: I know elvis79 personally and i can guarantee you that it is him self playing.” In my first post 29992 I wrote: “You, Elvis, have done a master class over a classical standard. I enjoyed it a lot! “. My friend 7 noticed the influence of Waller in your performance: “It's clear that you spent time and effort listening to Fats and learning his principles, and yet you still speak with your own voice. Very impressive.” Scot says: “As for the performance as a whole, I rather enjoyed it. Nice hands, good walking beat, the seeds of great stride. Regarding the comments about this being Fat's playing and such, it's obviously NOT Fat Waller playing this music. To keep confusion to a minimum, instead of saying, "This is my stride piano take on Ain't misbehavin." simply tell it how it is. "This is my take on a Fats Waller transcription of Ain't Misbehavin'." So, Elvis, please excuse me for my hard reaction in post 29994, but I can not understand why that info may appear in reproduction media if it is your own take, as I mention in post 30008: “Whenever You record a standard, Elvis, appears info that You write there. Whenever You record a standard from a recording, your hard drive automatically retrieves the original full title and info for the song.” This was the original point of my discussion. Good luck. Albetan
elvis79 -- 09/25/2006, 10:19:17 -- #29979
Thank you, Scot. This was the sort of feedback I was looking for. Those were points I had noticed myself as well and it's nice to get a "2:nd opinion" about it. I only wish I had a bigger left hand to sustain proper time on those walking tenths - but I'm working on it, as well as hitting the keys all the way down. However, this IS my take on "Ain't misbehavin'." I couldn't play Fats' version even if I wanted to... :/ The stride tempo is too fast and he plays it in C-major (wich actually is a more difficult key to stride in!!) Check out Fats' solo piano version at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004X0AT/ref=m_art_li_1/104-0491669-6823145?ie=UTF8 For those of you interested in a transcription of this check out Hal/Leonard - Thomas "Fats" Waller, the great solos. Paul Posnak did a wonderful job transcribing all those tunes.
jazz jasper -- 09/25/2006, 11:07:58 -- #29979
I agree, with Scot, if you had said that this is your take on a transcription then that would be cool but they are very similar, well tahts what I think, anyway aside all that I thought that the playing was really nice it sounded lovely, I think that you did a great job, my only comment would be that some of the lines weren't quite as clear as I would have thought they could be especially after listening to you and hearing the technique that you clearly posses. If I could play stride like that I'd be very pleased with myself, the only thing was that it was a very similar sounding piece to the original.
7 -- 09/25/2006, 22:29:38 -- #29979
The recording of Fats Waller's "Ain't Misbehavin'" that I transcribed was most definitely in Eb.
qvoice -- 09/26/2006, 13:19:57 -- #29979
I don´t care if it´s stolen or borrowed. I love it and I can´t get enough of it. Give me more, Elvis! Have you made other recordings?
elvis79 -- 09/27/2006, 10:04:10 -- #29979
Hi, qvoice! If you're interested in more of my material contact me at: elvis_79@suomi24.fi
jmkarns -- 09/27/2006, 12:00:16 -- #29979
elvis79, my wish is to see you play it on video. Any chance of capturing your technique visually? Not to prove anything, just for instructional purposes.
elvis79 -- 09/29/2006, 04:10:26 -- #29979
Heh...no, there are no videos of me playing. I think the most important thing you have to keep in mind is to relax when you play. There's footage available of Art Tatum playing "Humouresque" on the Spike Jones Show from 1954 wich is quite impressive. He's incredibly at ease with the piano, as if he was driving a car... Truly effortless. Anyone who hasn't seen Tatum play I strongly suggest tuning in. There are also a lot of footage of Vladimir Horowitz playing (my personal fav). You can also learn a great deal from just watching him in action.
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