| LearnJazzPiano.com archives: quick question on whole-tone scales/chords | |
| ronald1 -- 11/01/2006, 06:13:54 -- #30862 | |
| am I right in thinking the only chords you can play wholetone runs on are Dominant7(5#) (or Dominant7(13b) obviously), or am I missing something? | |
| 7 -- 11/01/2006, 08:37:29 -- #30862 | |
| Also over 7b5, 9b5, 9#5, aug triad, majb5 | |
| Jazz+ -- 11/01/2006, 12:09:13 -- #30862 | |
| Correct Also, the two whole tone scales sound odd and you can go bitonal and experiment with them by superimposing them over other chords rather than the conventional scale/chord association. | |
| jwv76 -- 11/01/2006, 16:21:22 -- #30862 | |
| I use them in quite a number of different places over nearly any kind of chord quality, even if the notes clash with the chord it's an interesting way to create a little tension, or "outside" sound, and then resolve back into the chord. One example might be if you are in a spot in a song where you have a C minor chord for a few bars I might play an F-G-A-B-Db=Eb whole tone lick for a measure, or half a measure, then back to C minor. I'm basically super-imposing a G7+ chord over the C minor chord. Works well over C min6 C min maj7. | |
| Mike -- 11/01/2006, 20:38:57 -- #30862 | |
| Incorrect It depends on how you organize your melodic concepts. you can think of F whole tone scale as being available on D minor 7 for example. It is just not as ingoing a choice as F lydian. It is a scale you might be more wise to experiment with at a jam session than while trying to secure a high paying dinner gig at the local Five star restaurant. | |
| jwv76 -- 11/01/2006, 22:41:02 -- #30862 | |
| "If it sounds good, then it is good." -Duke Ellington | |
| pphilip -- 11/02/2006, 13:19:15 -- #30862 | |
| Can't argue with the Duke. | |
| Mike -- 11/02/2006, 13:26:11 -- #30862 | |
| The Duke had a way of stating the obvious that made it seem like no one else ever opened their eyes or had ever even stoped to listen to anything before. | |
| gsandberg -- 11/03/2006, 00:12:09 -- #30862 | |
| You can play a whole tone scale over any dominant chord that resolves a fourth up and it sounds fine. | |
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