LearnJazzPiano.com archives: Voicings for Someday
PomPom -- 08/29/2007, 11:24:30 -- #36637
Hi folks,

i managed to harmonize the melody of "someday my prince will come" but i dont realy know what lh-voicings i should use. The chord progression is sometimes a little tricky and unusual. Plz help me out on this ! thx

CynBad -- 08/29/2007, 13:13:28 -- #36637
The standard 4-note rootless LH voicings work nicely for me.

dougmck -- 08/29/2007, 16:29:36 -- #36637
I have just posted a video on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmcTByrO_ow
with a clear view of the voicings that are typically played.
At my site at
http://web.newsguy.com/dougmck
there is a copy of this video and a computer generated transcription from the midi file that was recorded simultaneously with the video.
I hope that this helps
Doug

smg -- 08/29/2007, 17:35:45 -- #36637
Hey Doug-do you remember a few years ago the thread about McCoys' style and the file I posted attached to it?I've lost the original and in "archives" it doesn't come up off the link..do you(or anyone else)have a copy of it?

charlp88 -- 08/29/2007, 19:54:57 -- #36637
Doug that was absolutely great

PomPom -- 08/30/2007, 02:19:46 -- #36637
wow that is incredible doug...though it is a little to complex for me :D i just wanted some standard Lh-voicings :D

but great stuff doug !!!

dougmck -- 08/30/2007, 03:28:01 -- #36637
Hey smg - I think I remember it, but can't remember where it was or when it was posted. Scot may help

There is a great Youtube post - 'Practice McCoy style' - with annotations/explanations by an excellent pianist ... who modestly uses 'Lot2Learn' as his Youtube name!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zhzon5qtRc

Check it out - and his other videos.

Doug

jazz jasper -- 08/31/2007, 09:50:27 -- #36637
Doug has been doing this for ages, I found his website about 6 months ago, Doug is AMAZING!!!  Really great, well done, so many people i know use your website.

PomPom -- 09/04/2007, 10:15:40 -- #36637
one question doug...what programm can make this video ? i mean out of a midi file...

dougmck -- 09/04/2007, 16:12:29 -- #36637
The program I used to do this was 'Band in a Box'. I didn't use the auto accompaniment feature, which is the main reason for most people buying it. Instead, I imported midi files I had done, into the program. (More recent versions of the program have this feature).

I always record midi - my Yamaha P 250 keyboard has a simple midi record facility that I use, or I record the midi data on my computer in a sequencing program - I use Sonar, but any will do.

I have the Band in a Box program generate a piano view, and also allow it to produce a transcription. BIAB will try to guess at chords, but jazz chords are beyond it, so I type in these myself. The transcription it produces is reasonably accurate - though of course its 'intelligent hand split' routine often gets the treble / bass wrong. The Big piano view it produces is great for those who are not great readers. And the ability to add text comments is kind of like being able to ask the piano player why he/she did this or that!

These notation and piano views are captured using a screen capture program.(Camtasia Studio)  I have started using this program more now as it also has a more advanced video editor than Windows Movie Maker. It allows ‘Picture in Picture’, and text can easily be added and placed accurately.
Hope that this helps.

Doug

Jazz+ -- 09/04/2007, 19:05:49 -- #36637
I hear the latest version of Band In The Box has a library of drum loops that are recordings of real drummers. Anybody tried those? That is a huge improvement that gets rid of the awful stiffness and artificial quality of MIDI programmed drum tracks.

Piano4u -- 09/07/2007, 09:58:51 -- #36637
Hello Jazz+
Yes, I have the new version and it is a worthwhile upgrade. You're right, the old BIAB drums were only as good as the samples in your sound card and were still artificial at best. The new "Real Drums" as they are called use an actual drummer and it is tempo independent so you can set the tempo where you like. The loops are limited but there are some excellent jazz brushes and sticks loops and a couple of great jazz samba loops, one with brushes and one with sticks. I think you can purchase additional add-on loops for funk, etc.

My YouTube video of "Dig This Samba" uses the BIAB "Real Drums" jazz samba. You can hear the difference between the "A" (brushes) and "B" section (sticks) as well as the fills that are automatically placed between the sections. The solo section switches to sticks also. I actually tried to play this as it was recorded by Manfred Fest at
225 BPM but decided to slow it down to a more reasonable 170 BPM and the BIAB real drums handled the task perfectly.
You can view the video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28bNFsIXc-4

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