| LearnJazzPiano.com archives: Modern Upbeat Gosple | |
| Billy Miller -- 02/01/2004, 19:13:05 -- #457 | |
| Im looking for tips on more modern gosple music. For instance, music like you hear by kirk franklin, byron cage, fred hammond, and other modern, and 90s style gosple artists. Also, i wanna know how to play the real upbeat music they play in pentecostal and baptist churches when everyone starts dancing and goin crazy. Ive tried to make a start to learning it. Ive already learned the basic bassline they use: 1 3(octave down)4 b5 5 6 b7 7, but, i wanna know how to play some of the licks they use. Also, i wanna know how they take solos and what type of patterns and progressions they use. I know this is alot, but thanks for any tips you can offer. Billy | |
| Scot -- 02/02/2004, 14:09:55 -- #502 | |
| I am not familar with that music, though I think I know the sound you are looking for. I highly suggest doing a transcription of the music you want to play. It's also important to listen to it a LOT. With that bass line you mentioned, you're basically talking about kind of a gospel-hop, the kind of music that really pushes things along. Solo style in this is usually lots of blues/gospel licks (which is why you need to transcribe- you'll get these licks under your fingers), pentatonic licks, and basically more licks than a hunk of salt in the woods gets in the winter. The roots of the music is really where all this stuff came from. Old gospel, New Orleans gospel/blues/spirituals, etc. Listen to Dr. John, Prof Longhair, and guys like that. But the bottom line is that your questions are easily answered by transcribing the solos and the music you want to play, and by listening to the solos and music that you want to play ALL THE TIME! Good luck. | |
| smg -- 02/02/2004, 14:38:03 -- #505 | |
| There are some very complete sites online to check out,one of which sends out free lessons every week when you sign up for the free newsletter at one point they also sent me a free download of part of a book they sell)....this one is run by a Rev.Jermaine Griggs,it's called Hear and Play.com..you can access it from this link,which also has a lot of great info,free downloads,etc.....http://samsmuzikco.com. In addition,you might want to check out this article about the great Richard Tee,who used a lot of gospel-type stuff in his style..this has some transcriptions,one of which I'm working on-http://archive.keyboardonline.com/master/richardtee/index.shtml | |
| LarryC -- 02/02/2004, 15:21:44 -- #509 | |
| Another good one... http://archive.keyboardonline.com/master/mcdonald/ LarryC | |
| Billy Miller -- 02/02/2004, 19:40:06 -- #518 | |
| I listen to this style quite a bit, i go to church alot, i also listen to some at home also. But, its really hard to find the church style outside of a church. I listen as much as i can in church, but i cant run to my piano right then and transcribe. I know ill eventually end up playing in church (actually, i already do play keyboard for a youth worship service we have, but its a contemporary style, not really gosple)and i know ill learn ALOT when i start to play, but i really need a headstart before i start to play, so i dont look retarded when i start to play. | |
| 7 -- 02/02/2004, 21:21:43 -- #522 | |
These churches that you go to that have the kind of music you want to learn, don't they have live musicians playing? Why not ask the keyboard players to give you some lessons or ask them where they learned their stuff or get them to recommend a local teacher or recommend some recordings to transcribe??? That's what I would do (if I wanted to learn gospel). A long time ago someone recommended this video for learning gospel: "GET ETHEL CAFFIE-AUSTIN VIDEO TAPE 1 LEARN TO PLAY GOSPEL MUSIC, ON THE TAPE SHE WILL SHOW YOU OTHER WAYS TO PLAY THE SONG.IF THERE IS A SAM ASH, GUITAR CENTER WERE YOU LIVE THEY SHOULD HAVE IT." I've never seen the video, so I can't comment but it's worth a shot. 7 | |
| smg -- 02/03/2004, 06:28:13 -- #536 | |
| "Looking retarded" to who,man?Other gospel pianists who think it's great that a young kid of 16 is starting to learn the style? | |
| smg -- 02/04/2004, 13:48:10 -- #618 | |
| http://blackgospelmusician.homestead.com/ (just found this) | |
| Scot -- 02/02/2004, 14:09:55 -- #502 | |
| I am not familar with that music, though I think I know the sound you are looking for. I highly suggest doing a transcription of the music you want to play. It's also important to listen to it a LOT. With that bass line you mentioned, you're basically talking about kind of a gospel-hop, the kind of music that really pushes things along. Solo style in this is usually lots of blues/gospel licks (which is why you need to transcribe- you'll get these licks under your fingers), pentatonic licks, and basically more licks than a hunk of salt in the woods gets in the winter. The roots of the music is really where all this stuff came from. Old gospel, New Orleans gospel/blues/spirituals, etc. Listen to Dr. John, Prof Longhair, and guys like that. But the bottom line is that your questions are easily answered by transcribing the solos and the music you want to play, and by listening to the solos and music that you want to play ALL THE TIME! Good luck. | |
| smg -- 02/02/2004, 14:38:03 -- #505 | |
| There are some very complete sites online to check out,one of which sends out free lessons every week when you sign up for the free newsletter at one point they also sent me a free download of part of a book they sell)....this one is run by a Rev.Jermaine Griggs,it's called Hear and Play.com..you can access it from this link,which also has a lot of great info,free downloads,etc.....http://samsmuzikco.com. In addition,you might want to check out this article about the great Richard Tee,who used a lot of gospel-type stuff in his style..this has some transcriptions,one of which I'm working on-http://archive.keyboardonline.com/master/richardtee/index.shtml | |
| LarryC -- 02/02/2004, 15:21:44 -- #509 | |
| Another good one... http://archive.keyboardonline.com/master/mcdonald/ LarryC | |
| Billy -- 02/02/2004, 19:40:06 -- #518 | |
| I listen to this style quite a bit, i go to church alot, i also listen to some at home also. But, its really hard to find the church style outside of a church. I listen as much as i can in church, but i cant run to my piano right then and transcribe. I know ill eventually end up playing in church (actually, i already do play keyboard for a youth worship service we have, but its a contemporary style, not really gosple)and i know ill learn ALOT when i start to play, but i really need a headstart before i start to play, so i dont look retarded when i start to play. | |
| 7 -- 02/02/2004, 21:21:43 -- #522 | |
These churches that you go to that have the kind of music you want to learn, don't they have live musicians playing? Why not ask the keyboard players to give you some lessons or ask them where they learned their stuff or get them to recommend a local teacher or recommend some recordings to transcribe??? That's what I would do (if I wanted to learn gospel). A long time ago someone recommended this video for learning gospel: "GET ETHEL CAFFIE-AUSTIN VIDEO TAPE 1 LEARN TO PLAY GOSPEL MUSIC, ON THE TAPE SHE WILL SHOW YOU OTHER WAYS TO PLAY THE SONG.IF THERE IS A SAM ASH, GUITAR CENTER WERE YOU LIVE THEY SHOULD HAVE IT." I've never seen the video, so I can't comment but it's worth a shot. 7 | |
| smg -- 02/03/2004, 06:28:13 -- #536 | |
| "Looking retarded" to who,man?Other gospel pianists who think it's great that a young kid of 16 is starting to learn the style? | |
| smg -- 02/04/2004, 13:48:10 -- #618 | |
| http://blackgospelmusician.homestead.com/ (just found this) | |
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