LearnJazzPiano.com archives: scales over 9-6-5 chords
quartal -- 06/08/2004, 09:11:41 -- #4816
besides pentatonic scales what other scales sound good over 9-6-5 chords?

Mike -- 06/08/2004, 10:08:11 -- #4817
all the scales that are available on any major chord.
5 is always assumed in a chord spelling.
So I assuming then you are meaning to refer to a 69 chord.  The favorite chord of most pianists.

smg -- 06/08/2004, 10:39:05 -- #4818
This link is to a site where scale/chord relationships are dealt with in detail-http://www.chrisjuergensen.com/lessons.htm?ID=1047

smg -- 06/08/2004, 10:39:51 -- #4819
BTW like Mike I'm wondering what you mean by 9-6-5....

quartal -- 06/08/2004, 10:59:24 -- #4822
i meant using the 9th the 6th and the 5th scale tones to outline a chord..

smg -- 06/08/2004, 11:03:25 -- #4823
Give me an example of the voicing,using this kind of system-
LH xxx RH xxxx

quartal -- 06/08/2004, 17:19:42 -- #4836
i meant 6-9-5 chords-- so  for c i would play a-d-g- in left hand...so what scales go over that besides c pentatonic and c minor that are interesting?

albetan -- 06/08/2004, 19:01:34 -- #4837
You may play any scales against quartals.
Look for 3 notes containing 1, 3, 5, 7. 9. 11. or 13.
 
Voicings for C:
D  G  C     (9, 5,  1)
E  A  D     (3, 13, 9)
A  D  G     (13, 9, 5)
B  E  A     (7,  3, 13)

Voicings for G7:
 F  B  E    (7,  3,  13) here no perfect quartal, a diatonic quartal.
  
Voicings for Dm7
G  C  F   (11, 7,  3)  containing 7 and 3.

Voicings for Cm:
D  G  C   (9,  5,  1)
F  Bb Eb  (11, 7,  3)
G  C  F   (5,  1,  11)
A  D  G   (13, 9,  5)
For Cm6: Eb  A  D   (3, 13, 9) Here no perfect quartal

Mike -- 06/08/2004, 19:04:51 -- #4838
smg I never refered to a 6-9-5 chord although I did promote the 69 chord.
   It is my contention that there is no such thing as a 6-9-5 chord as 5 is always assummed in a chord unless the chord symbol says otherwise as in for example a minor 7  b5 chord which specifies a flatted 5th instead of a 5th.

Mike -- 06/08/2004, 19:07:08 -- #4839
6 and 9 are merely tensions available on any major chord so the chord scales available for improvisation on such a chord are the same as
for any major chord ie, major scale, lydian scale, major pentatonic etc.

7 -- 06/08/2004, 22:58:50 -- #4843
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695 is a quartal voicing.

Consonant with a 695 are the upper root quartal extension and the lower 3rd and maj7 quartal extensions.

(Extending the quartals any further results in an F# on the bottom and an F on the top).

This  produces the following six note quartal megascale:

7 3 6 9 5 1

rearranged we have:

1 2 3  5 6 7


Big surpise huh?

7

Mike -- 06/09/2004, 00:17:22 -- #4844
So if I understand correctly then ... The original question more correctly would have been put:  besides pentatonic scales what other scales sound good over 9-6-5 VOICINGS?   In which case my answer would be the same.  All the scales that sound  good over a Major chord of any type will sound good because a 9-6-5 is simply one way of voicing a major chord.

quartal -- 06/09/2004, 07:21:02 -- #4849
Yes that is a better way to phrase it. Thanks for the info!

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