| LearnJazzPiano.com archives: i love scales.... | |
| dudsy -- 10/10/2004, 13:54:52 -- #7906 | |
| hey guys anyone agree with me that practicing hanon exercises is a good way to practice scales?....but practicing them in all keys dudsy | |
| Jazz+ -- 10/10/2004, 15:48:44 -- #7907 | |
| Hanon is nothing I play in jazz. I love to practice the Bebop scale vriations for Dorian, Mixolydian and Ionian with 1234, 1234 fingering. Dorian Bebop 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 #7 (fingered 1234 1234) Mixolydian Bebop 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 #7 (fingered 1234 1234) Ionian Bebop 1 2 3 4 5 #5 6 7 (fingered 1234 1234) Also, the dimished scales over ii V7. fingered 1234 1234 (except for the C half-whole diminished scale) | |
| dudsy -- 10/10/2004, 16:04:04 -- #7908 | |
| what i mean....is applying those scales to hanon exercises like playing the dorian, mixolydian, and ionian bebop scales over those hanon exercises besides practing them up and down, up and down | |
| Jazz+ -- 10/10/2004, 21:08:23 -- #7911 | |
| I don't care for Hanon's patterns when applied to jazz. So I use different continuos patterns that I feel are better suited for me when soloing. I use some Herbie Hancock and McCoy Tyner patterns. Also, I have practiced continuos 4 note and 3 note groupings. also continuos melodic 3rds thru scales. | |
| Ole -- 10/11/2004, 02:35:46 -- #7915 | |
| Can you explain those Hancock and McCoy patterns? | |
| Dr. Whack -- 10/11/2004, 07:22:01 -- #7916 | |
| >>anyone agree with me that practicing hanon exercises is a good way to practice scales?....but practicing them in all keys<< yes:) | |
| dudsy -- 10/11/2004, 11:08:34 -- #7924 | |
| yeah i agree with ole, can u explain those herbie hancock and mccoy tyner patterns? | |
| alfredo -- 10/14/2004, 10:01:58 -- #8030 | |
| Some might argue that any Hanon is too much. I've practiced Hanon in the past and it did help my technique, but now I hardly do any technical work outside of the pieces I learn. You should probably ask yourself why you are doing Hanon. Is there a deficiency in your playing you are trying to address? If so, you might want to take a look at playing some Bach keyboard works that will give the same benefits. Some of the preludes from the Well-Tempered Clavier are particularly good in this regard. I actually found this better for my technique than Hanon, plus I got to learn some great music in the process. About the only time I do technical work these days is to address a problem area in my playing. You might want to consider adopting a similar philosophy. Learning real music is much more fun. | |
| Dr. Whack -- 10/14/2004, 11:30:06 -- #8035 | |
| Excellent point Alfredo, but I think the advantage Hanon has over the Bach peices you mentioned is that the Hanon are much easier to learn...so if it's a quick technique fix you're looking for, I'd do the Hanon | |
| dudsy -- 10/14/2004, 20:59:03 -- #8056 | |
| i've been doing them for the last 12 years. i'm classically trained. i still do them too...i stopped doing hanon for a few years tho. and i picked up again last week and had this idea to play them in all keys....instead of just playing them in 3rds, 4ths, 5ths..... i just wanna find some interesting ways of playing them and internalizing them better....because i mean, its alot to easier to solo in a C major scale, then an F# major scale (well for me)....so my goal is just to feel comfortable in every key..... don't get the idea tho that i ONLY practice scales haha...i do work on tunes too | |
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