it seems that whatever i read here, is that everyone is trying to impress everyone else with everything they know about theory, history and basic knowledge of piano playing.  my god!!!  does anyone play from the heart?  i learn a tune from the basic chord progression and never play it the same way twice.  big words and phrases and sentences with musical mumbo jumbo, (even though i understand it) is foreign to the beginner.  man!!!  just take what you got and just feel it!!
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, what's wrong with trying to get a little more so you have more to take when you wnat to "feel it"??

and is it fair to argue that a person sharing knowledge/wisdom is only trying to impress everyone else....tisk tisk...you wascal!!
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all the posts should be like that from now on...
thats how i feel.
or like that
sweep. you wanted to speak to me. how about an email as live in england and phoning might be inconvenient. or can you tell me how to send a 'private'which was your idea.

alan
sweep88,

as dr. whack said, one of the more useful things can get from this site is a bit of theory.  the next most useful thing is hearing the midi files.

if everyone could easily record their playing as .wav files and post them on this site, that would truly be a great boost to this site, but i guess that is not practical now with limited bandwidth.  soon, though, posting *.wav files may be possible, in which case there could be a lot more recordings posted here which could show a lot more of the "feeling" you want with less reliance on technical mumbo-jumbo  (hey, is there any tune called 'mumbo-jumbo'.  hmmm, i might have to write something and call it that).

i have the equipment for making *.wav files, but not midis.  and midis don't sound as good anyways.
i play drums, guitar, bass, all by ear. i have just started to play piano, and i have just started to learn how to read music.  

i have been "feeling it" for over 10 years now. i really appreciate this site and the information provided by it's members. i'm glad that i dont have to fumble around with store bought books... instead i can come hear and read about theory, history and basic knowledge, for free!  

if music was not in me, i dont think that i would have the interest or motivation to learn about all the theory behind it, unravelling the mumbo jumbo. for example, a couple weeks ago i learned how to feel a tritone substitution!  

scot and ljpers, thanks for the time and effort put into this site. i'd rather play music with you, but since my rhodes isnt tcp/ip enabled yet, we can stick to furthering our knowledge of jazz.

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maybe a mambo-jambo.
let's define what a jambo is.
is insulting to the people who post and read messages here. apart from midi files which do no one's playing justice, you've probably never heard anyone play who frequents this site, so to assume that people don't "feel" their music is kind of strange.
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sorry mr 88 feels that everyone here is just out to impress with head stuff.  my experience of lurking here for a few years is quite the opposite - i'm amazed how generous experienced and knowledgeable musicians have always been in helping others to understand and improve, and how little posturing and intimidation there is.  yes, things get heated now and then, and some threads are downright baffling, even to people who think they know something about the subject, but generally this community seems to me to score rather low on the ego richter scale.  as for "feeling", well it's difficult to express this facet of music and has defeated some of history's greatest writers.  as someone one said, writing about music is like dancing about architecture.  so generally, the discussions stick to technical and practical matters, but this shouldn't be interpreted that contributors don't play with feeling.  just listen to the performances posted in the files section.   plenty of feeling there, i'd say.

sid
i don't think for one minute that everyone is trying to impress with their knowledge of theory etc.

to use another arty analogy, imagine an author or poet trying to write without having any knowledge of their chosen language or grammar. just  'feeling' it would give slightly hit or miss results.

i'd agree with scott that once on the bandstand the theory stuff is left behind and this is where the 'feeling' comes in.

i'd also say that just playing by formula e.g. just playing scales or licks verbatim can sound pretty boring but learning these gives you a 'palette' or some building blocks to work with.

i don't believe there's a player out there even at the real free end of jazz who doesn't play stuff that they've played before when improvising to some degree.  

i think it's a trade off really of playing from the heart and 'feeling' it and using jazz vocabulary learnt 'in the privacy of your closet' that makes for good and memorable improvisation. playing with just feeling can sound the equivalent of 'wibble pah' but just using licks is sterile and dull.
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