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yesterdays (kern) in stride

hi all,

i am trying a little stride on yesterdays by jerome kern. do you have any suggestions for which bass notes to hit when you get ot the cycle of dominant 5ths? for some reason, when i hit the root of the dominant on beat 1, and the 5th on beat 3, it seems off (that is sounding not right) i've also tried tritone subs, for example on a a7 chord, hitting a on beat 1 and eb on beat 3, but this also sounds a bit funny... what am i doing wrong...? plz help

by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 11:02

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you are talking about the section:

| e7 | a7#5 | d9 | g13 | c9 |

maybe you need to consider when to use b5 and when to use 5 in your bass notes. according to the melody and what my ears prefer, i consider e7 and a7 rather altered so i like root and b5 bass notes under them. the d9, g13 and c9 are pretty un-altered so i like root and 5th bass notes under them. try it that way.

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by Jazz+ on 02/02/2007, 11:33

hmmm, that could work, although i usually play #5 for the a7 chord...

another question.. when you play stride playing the root on 1 and the fifth on 3, should you play the fifth above the root you played... of below??? note that i am referring to the place on the pianowhere you should play the fifth...

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by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 12:57

"of" sould be "or"

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by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 12:58

there is no absolute, it can be above or below, it would depend on the range and your taste.

i wouldn't stride the #5 on a7#5. i would use b5 which leads to d7

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by Jazz+ on 02/02/2007, 13:03

you can also think that like tritone sub..

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by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 13:10

on youtube, there are several solo versions including one by me. (). i have (as i usually do) added some comments on some of the things that i think that might be of interest to other jazz piano players. after a rubato type first chorus, the remaining bits are in tempo - and are in a kind of loose stride style. there is a midi file recorded at the same time that you can download at
https://www.bushgrafts.com/jazz/movies%20(wmv)/yesterdays1.mid
of course this is all very ordinary when you compare it to the master - art tatum's version
()
doug

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by dougmck on 02/02/2007, 22:07

sorry - the links to youtube don't work (i should not have added the bracket at the end) - these should work!
the first is

and art tatum's version

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by dougmck on 02/02/2007, 22:34

doug,

what bass notes do you like on beat three when playing stride over the
| e7 | a7#5 | d9 | g13 | c9 |

j+

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by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:07

its been a while since i played this - but i think that i fairly freely mix and match these chords with their tri-tone equivalents - possibly using both the 5th and the b5th at times. i just ran the midi file of the video, and because the style is very loose, i don't often play the root / chord / fifth / chord. instead the option of playing a chord (or another voicing or inversion of the chord) on beat 3 then the b5 on beat 4 - is a common choice.

doug

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by dougmck on 02/03/2007, 00:40

that'a nice, more modern way to play stride. i call it modified stride.

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by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:49

playing a chord (or another voicing or inversion of the chord) on beat 3 then the b5 on beat 4

sometimes i like to do as little as change only the top note of the voicing on beat three (or maybe play the next inversion above)

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by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:51

you can hear herbie do it on the eb chord in his solo version of green dolphin street.

he plays the eb root on beat one, g bb d on beat two, g bb d f on beat three, g bb d on beat four.

so he plays a three note voicing on beat two, extends it to a four note voicing on beat three, and then returns back to the original three note voicing on beat four.

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by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:54

thanks a million for the brilliant videos you've got there doug. what a great resource to have videos with a clear view of the hands, written commentary, and even midi files.

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by Gordon on 02/03/2007, 07:04

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yesterdays (kern) in stride

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by Jazz+ on 02/02/2007, 11:33

by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 12:57

by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 12:58

by Jazz+ on 02/02/2007, 13:03

by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 13:10

by dougmck on 02/02/2007, 22:07

by dougmck on 02/02/2007, 22:34

by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:07

by dougmck on 02/03/2007, 00:40

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yesterdays (kern) in stride

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by Jazz+ on 02/02/2007, 11:33

by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 12:57

by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 12:58

by Jazz+ on 02/02/2007, 13:03

by ayolt on 02/02/2007, 13:10

by dougmck on 02/02/2007, 22:07

by dougmck on 02/02/2007, 22:34

by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:07

by dougmck on 02/03/2007, 00:40

by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:49

by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:51

by Jazz+ on 02/03/2007, 00:54

by Gordon on 02/03/2007, 07:04

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