my friend who came back from berkelee told me that michel camilo was considered one of the most over rated pianist over there. while hiromi uehara was one of the most popular..
wat's happening... ??? michel camilo is a monster player... already a well known figure in the history of latin jazz..is he really over rated?? cant he be considered one of the greats??
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hahaha, this just makes me laugh, cause i've seen michel camilo live twice. once in a solo setting and once with tomatito... he's an unbelievable virtuoso..
a monster player, he just doesn't play bop all the time which is probably why the students say that.
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oh here we go again.
i'm beginning to think that "berklee students" all suffer from a napoleonic complex.
next time somebody says something like that, ask them to play for you.
oh, and it's funny that now hiromi is so popular at berklee, because according to one poster here, when she was at berklee, she was never one of "the cats".  i guess now that she has a fine career going, they have changed their minds.
give me a break.
see, this is the kind of crap that happens when people feel the need to compare and "rank" everybody.  in my opinion, this is anathema to the arts.
i don't know how michel camilo could be overrated.  i never even hear him hyped up.  even if he was though, i think he'd live up to it.  he's brilliant rhythmically and complements it with an amazing modern jazz vocabulary.


wow, i have to agree with the sentiments here. never heard him live, but from listening to him play, i don't think he's overrated, its more probable thats he's underated.  


jv'
micheal camilo's album with tomatito "spain" was mind blowing. i'd recommend this to any jazz pianist. a track on there-la vacilona, camilo did a octave run and it just ran tingles up and down my back. camilo is indeed a virtuoso, no doubt.
every musician should check out michel camilo's performance of the song "from within" in the documentary video "calle 54".. it's simply amazing ... and inspiring
one time, i was at a berklee event at the harvard club, checking out donna mcelroy(if you haven't heard her, you should.........amazing), when up walks this guy to sit in on the set.  i didn't really know exactly what michel looks like, so i didn't know who it was.  well, he started playing.....and my reaction was...."hmmmm............he's ok......why is he sitting in with donna mcelroy?"  he was soloing over a blues.  well, i was shocked when i found out it was michel camilo.  he sure has some amazing chops.....but, when it comes to playing over a nice slow blues.......well.................it was not so good.  so, yeah, in my opinion, he's overrated, at least as a jazz pianist.  as a pianist, however.....he's really good.  so, it depends on how you look at it, i guess.  it was nice to come to an honest conclusion about his playing by not knowing who it was.  gotta love the old blindfold test :o)


hmm, so because he failed your blindfold litmus test on a slow blues he overrated? :)

i sincerely doubt that he wouldn't have known how to solo over a slow blues. of course, any listening experience is highly subjective and you are certainly entitled to your own opionion.

what was your impression of him before that happened?


jv'
michel is from the dominican republic. so, culturally the blues is not his "roots" so to speak. but, because of his latin culture he probably can play a bolero (slow ~ ballad type) better than any american jazz pianist. he probably wishes that he could play like an african-american blues master. he's got his strong latin/classical style which is a what he does. i've never heard hiromi play a great slow blues either - wait she's from japan!
well, i'm sure he can play a bolero very well.  like i said, it depends on how you look at it.  what defines a "jazz" pianist, could be a subject of much debate.  i don't really consider hiromi a great "jazz" pianist, either........but, she is an amazing pianist.  it all depends on where you think the definition lies.  

it's not that he didn't know how to solo over a slow blues.  of course he knew what he was playing.........it just didn't seem to be a great performance over a blues.  it lacked something that a great blues solo has.  i hadn't heard him much before this, other than caribe 1000 times, because my roomate was working on scatting the solo.  caribe is killin..........but......like you said, that style is more his bag.  most stuff of his i've heard since is very amazing technically.......but lacks the musical depth that i get when i listen to my favorite jazz pianists.
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