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i though autumn leaves was in a minor key.

by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 13:06

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looks like c minor to me.

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by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 13:07

the relative major of c minor is eb, the key signature is that of eb.

autumn leaves goes back and forth between

ii v i in eb and ii v i in c minor

it's the best of both worlds!

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by Jazz+ on 03/21/2007, 14:32

that is also the key signature of c minor.
it's in a minor key, regardless of modulations.

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by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 14:55

i know it ends up in c minor, but you don't think of the first four measures as ii v i in eb?

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by Jazz+ on 03/21/2007, 15:30

don't start with me, mister man!
you know it's how it ends that matters!
;-)

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by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 15:58

actually, i think of the first four bars as being ii-v-i of iii.

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by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 16:00

the tune is definitely in a minor key (c minor in this case) - maybe you should have asked if anyone does it in 3 flats...

in the old days when i first started gigging, the players would point three fingers down for 3 flats or 3 fingers up for three sharps - they didn't usually specify tonal center - you'd be playing a tune, a dude would turn around, give you a hand signal for a new key and change tunes - i had to just grab a hold and stay with em - learned a bunch of tunes that way :)

as for what key i do autumn leaves? i do it in a different key each time i play it - keeps me in touch with the keyboard:)

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by Dr. Whack on 03/21/2007, 16:04

i like to play it in c# minor. it gives it that tragic aura.
reason being, i have always loved the key of e major due to its etherial, poignant quality. it only follows that its relative minor would be tres pathetique.

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by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 16:38

thems some fancy words there cynbad! i'm impressed!

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by Dr. Whack on 03/21/2007, 16:48

;-)
7 will just hate it.

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by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 19:16

he's probably whistling something neither of us will understand :)

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by Dr. Whack on 03/21/2007, 22:03

me neither

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by 7 on 03/21/2007, 23:14

):

https://www.jeff-brent.com/lessons/minors.html

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by 7 on 03/21/2007, 23:49

i am trying to make sense of the broken circle but i cant get it from the explanation? maybe its just me

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by elwapo on 03/22/2007, 01:55

many singers like to do this tune in c minor, i've noticed.

i agree with 7, i think of the first chord as iv.

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by jwv76 on 03/22/2007, 03:28

yes, the first chord is iv, but iv is also the ii of iii if you are doing a ii-v-i pattern on iii, which is what is happening.
:)

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by CynBad on 03/22/2007, 09:15

the fun thing about autumn leaves is it gives you both sides of the coin, it jumps back and forth from the ii v i in major and ii v i in the relative minor.

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by Jazz+ on 03/22/2007, 12:15

is that the fun thing about it?

how many keys would you say "all the things you are" is in?

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by CynBad on 03/22/2007, 12:28

1,000,000,000

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by Jazz+ on 03/22/2007, 12:30

i play it in ab, but it modulates around a lot.

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by CynBad on 03/22/2007, 13:02

you mean, "all the chords you know"?

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by jwv76 on 03/22/2007, 13:14

is that what people call it? lol

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by CynBad on 03/22/2007, 15:05

i like to play it in g..

........or em!

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by casparus on 03/26/2007, 21:53

you mean 1 sharp ? heh heh

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by Dr. Whack on 03/27/2007, 08:02

this tune is particularly easy to play in other keys - the first note is the tonic - ya wanna play it in fm? start on f...

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by Dr. Whack on 03/27/2007, 08:04

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by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 13:07

by Jazz+ on 03/21/2007, 14:32

by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 14:55

by Jazz+ on 03/21/2007, 15:30

by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 15:58

by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 16:00

by Dr. Whack on 03/21/2007, 16:04

by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 16:38

by Dr. Whack on 03/21/2007, 16:48

by CynBad on 03/21/2007, 19:16

by Dr. Whack on 03/21/2007, 22:03

by 7 on 03/21/2007, 23:14

by 7 on 03/21/2007, 23:49

by elwapo on 03/22/2007, 01:55

by jwv76 on 03/22/2007, 03:28

by CynBad on 03/22/2007, 09:15

by Jazz+ on 03/22/2007, 12:15

by CynBad on 03/22/2007, 12:28

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by CynBad on 03/22/2007, 13:02

by jwv76 on 03/22/2007, 13:14

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