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im into practising fast tunes at this time... i need more tunes to work on. could anyone name the most usual standardtunes that often are played  in tempos above 220 bpm.  playing in 220bpm seems to be one thing and playing faster than 240 seems to be another thing. anyone have any useful tips on practising in fast tempos? any mental exercises?  

martin
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feeling relaxed and attacking the keys with a less percussive attack is important for my approach to fast playing. also see the changes more broadly, not getting to bogged down in the details of the changes, i can play one scale over longer stretches, not worrying about every chord along the way is also part of my process. it doesn't need to be perfect or micro managed. most important: i need to ride the time with a good feel.  approach fast tunes as if they were in cut time, tap on the half notes not the quarter notes so you can stay more relaxed. practice playing sixteenth notes at 120 then 240 will feel the same.

tunes that use "rhythm changes", blues,  autumn leaves, tune up, i'll remember april, another you, etc.
what a brilliant surprise post, jazz+.  the concepts of micro-management and feeling time in half are perfect and precisely how i think most accomplished players approach the "challenge" of up-up-tempo tunes.
martin, fast tunes: oleo, cherokee, donna lee. charlie parker stuff.
there are some fast coltrane tunes, apart from giant steps, such as 26-2, moment's notice, mr pc, impressions, etc, which are played quite a lot and can really catch you out if you've not shedded them! but the most important things of all to practise at 240 bpm + are the blues and rhythm changes!

one approach to up-tempo playing i've found useful is to avoid the temptation to play long lines. leave plenty of space, and play lots of short simple 2- or 3-note motifs that you can develop through the changes. try using a mixture of short staccato articulation with long (held) notes.  

aniother thing that has helped me is the bebop scale, especially for double-time playing. if you can play good sixteenth-note lines in medium-tempo tunes, you're going to find up-tempo quavers easy.
re-anyone have any useful tips on practising in fast tempos? any mental exercises?

like the above replies indicate,up-tempo soloing is a study in itself;
you're mainly interested in making the changes so trying to get into complex lines/patterns isn't as important as simple ones that you can execute at the tempo you're trying to master.......start compiling a collection of 2,4,and 8 bar ideas that you work on with a metronome,
playing them over the related changes.....from there,take some of the tunes and gradually work them up to tempo,starting from a place that feels comfortable not forced and increasing the tempo a little at a time...then you might want to pick up one of those "rhythm section cd's" that have tempos way up and see what you can do;tape and listen to yourself....listening to a lot of recordings where players who can play these tempos comfortably get into their s--t probably will help you get used to thinking/hearing "way up"........
this gets into the type of thing i'm talking about re-a collection of 2,4,and 8 bar ideas-  
https://www.jazzbooks.com/miva/documents/handbook/10_practice_procedures.pdf
take the tunes on this list that are indicated as being played "medium up" and work on playing them superfast-https://www.worldjazz.ch/playright.htm
don't get too carried away with the state of your chops i reckon...if you're not careful it leads to treating your music just as an ego promoting exercise...chops are a means to an end which is to play good music, not to play music that shows off how technically advanced you are
playing fast is just as easy as playing slow.  obviously your chops will put some kind of limit on you, but not for comping at least.

similar to what jazz+ said, you can't think about the pieces of the tune when it's zipping by at over 240.  at this point you get one beat per measure, maybe two, and you have to think about the whole tune at once.

the thing is, you always have to think about the whole tune.  if you are ever breaking your tune down into chunks based on chords and harmony, then you're still inside a tiny musical box.

as soon as you break out of that box and forget about each chord but play the song by hearing the sounds and playing them, then you've arrived at a new level.

so on very fast tunes, like cherokee, all i do is keep the melody in mind. it's always there in the background. i do that with almost all my tunes because it keeps me in place and i always have something to relate what i'm playing to.
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this echos my last teacher's advice, the late great eddie weid.  for fast or not so fast tunes.
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