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counting slow the way musician's metaphore book has it

just got the book, loving every bit of it.
the part about most people not playing slow enough.. it seems like the tempo he suggests is extremely slow.. he starts with the metronome set on 60, which is already pretty slow, and divides that in 3, resulting in an incredible bpm of 20! for me, playing at bpm 80 is borderline too slow to feel the rhythm, or to "feel" the melody line it starts to feel like a bunch of separate notes.. how about you guys? maybe it's just takes getting used to.

by kensuguro on 10/19/2007, 19:18

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do you mean that at tempo 60 he recommends subdividing the quarter note into triplets resulting in a 12/8 feel? that's standard procedure on ballads.

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by Jazz+ on 10/19/2007, 21:03

i don't have the book, does kesuguro have it right?

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by Jazz+ on 10/20/2007, 13:44

ya basically i think he does. rh gives you a tip on how to practice very very slowly by counting every second.
set your metronome to 60 bpm, then on each tick, count:
1 and uh 2 and uh 3 ...

so you're counting slow eight note triplets , 1 per second.

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by knotty on 10/20/2007, 16:06

that's normal and essential ballad time (12/8).

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by Jazz+ on 10/20/2007, 18:11

all the poros play that way: feel the beat in triplet subdivison and we also switch gears frequently to a sixteenth note division and triplet sixteenth note division and thirty second note division. and also even eighth note subdivision. all for dramatic effect.

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by Jazz+ on 10/20/2007, 18:14

well, it makes sense if it was a quarter note per second (bpm 60) with triplet subdivision (3 triplet eighths per second), only from text i gather that you're supposed to count 1 triplet eighth per second.

"now you're counting very slow eighth note triplets, one per second" (p.12) .. that's very slow. 3 seconds per quarter note. 12 seconds for 1 measure? i'm not sure i can keep track of what i'm playing if the notes are that far apart. that's 1 minute for just 5 measures!

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by kensuguro on 10/20/2007, 18:32

the slower the easier.

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by Jazz+ on 10/21/2007, 13:21

kensuguro,

i think what's rh is giving you here is a way to play very slow if you need to. if you're learning a ballad where your target is 60 bpm, maybe you need to practice it down to 20 or 30 bpm. people might find it difficult to play that slow and keep track of time so he gives you a technique to do it.

i don't thing his intent is for you to play everything this slow.

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by knotty on 10/23/2007, 06:20

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counting slow the way musician's metaphore book has it

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counting slow the way musician's metaphore book has it

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by Jazz+ on 10/20/2007, 13:44

by knotty on 10/20/2007, 16:06

by Jazz+ on 10/20/2007, 18:11

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