Any accountants or bookkeepers here?
is this a good job for someone who isn't a big talker and introvert?
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it's a good job for someone who loves numbers.
how old are you?
how old are you?
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by Scot Ranney on 01/31/2008, 18:32
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yes, i am.
in fact, my job is financial controller in a small company. and yes i am not a big mouth and kind of introvert. and i have plenty of time of listening to jazz while working.
my co-workers don't understand how an accountant could be a musician...
in fact, my job is financial controller in a small company. and yes i am not a big mouth and kind of introvert. and i have plenty of time of listening to jazz while working.
my co-workers don't understand how an accountant could be a musician...
i'm an accountant too..
i work as a financial controller also but in my experience music and numbers dont mix too well. i hate my job and i am working towards a career in music. its a strange combination accounting and jazz. on one side you have the meticulous scrutiny of numbers in a mondaine and calculated fashion and on the other side you have this free form of expression where creativity takes the fore front. how can the 2 mix?
i am an accountant. i just think about how things would be if i had put as much time into my music as my accountancy studies!!!
but old jim haskins (www.cocktailpiano.com) he's a financial analyst by day and a cocktail pianist by night.
to answer your question, i have found that accountants are valued if they can communicate with non-accountants, do presentations etc.
(i ever get my own office then i'll have a baby grand in there!!)
one of the saddest stories i know was when i went along to a brilliant jazz teacher / performer who resides in bristol - and he was interested in doing accountancy study just in case 'the music dries up'!!
chris
but old jim haskins (www.cocktailpiano.com) he's a financial analyst by day and a cocktail pianist by night.
to answer your question, i have found that accountants are valued if they can communicate with non-accountants, do presentations etc.
(i ever get my own office then i'll have a baby grand in there!!)
one of the saddest stories i know was when i went along to a brilliant jazz teacher / performer who resides in bristol - and he was interested in doing accountancy study just in case 'the music dries up'!!
chris
those of us who make our livings playing and teaching music have to count our own beans. it seems ironic that full-time musicians are part-time accountants while some full-time accountants are part-time musicians - so i'm thinking they go hand in hand
i just found out that our great drummer here, mel brown, is an accountant. i've always figured there is a lot in commmon between any kind of number crunching (or other pure logic - computers of course) and music. every once in a while my teacher says something about having to do the math to get the chords and lines together properly.
there have been many studies linking music and math success together. though i'm no longer practicing accounting in my current job, i did get a masters in it and practiced it for about 10 years before i got into computer support. i know many musicians that excel in computer programming.
both music and math come down to spacial relationship. thank goodness the a's i got in math, accounting and music theories offset all the c's i got in history, science and english!
at least it applies to the theory side of music and to be able to read notes and play them. it probaly doesn't help in the creative or improvisational side of music which i struggle at.
both music and math come down to spacial relationship. thank goodness the a's i got in math, accounting and music theories offset all the c's i got in history, science and english!
at least it applies to the theory side of music and to be able to read notes and play them. it probaly doesn't help in the creative or improvisational side of music which i struggle at.
i taught myself how to play the piano beginning the age of 14. i just decided to look into learning jazz right now. i was never able to get to the advanced level in piano due to school, since i always took it as i hobby; however, i always had a deep passion for it. i'm 24 now, and i'll be graduating this year with a b.a. in business, and a focus in accounting. sometimes i get kinda confused as if i should have stuck to music altogether. however, i've always been kinda interested in business and i'm now interested in becoming an auditor, since the opportunities are endless for accountants. any advice from anyone? the only thing i'm worried about is the cpa exam since i've heard it's really hard!
in accounting you actually have the option of working in auditing or tax, if you're going to work for a public cpa firm. if you're doing tax, expect working on your own in a quiet environment, or with little interaction. i would never wanna do that. if you go in auditing, you're out in field working at clients' place of business doing a lot of analysis, and talking to people, and traveling a lot. that's what i want to do!
i'm finishing off a degree in accounting this semester, and am out there looking for a bit of experience to get things off (while studying nights), so i can get my cpa etc...
unfortunately for me, my marks arent the best (too much time on other things, jazz among them) so i have to work hard to find a place that will take me on.
i'm quite good when i apply myself though, but i dont think an accountants relationship with numbers has anything to do with being good at jazz. i think its about the effort you can afford to put into it. while i was studying i had a lot of time, but as i get more involved i won't, this doesnt mean i dont love it any less, i will just be busy being boring (or sober and non musical).
mishaco, it sounds like you are roughly in the same boat, (and an aussie too?), how are you gonna go about getting some work as it seems tough if you dont go through university channels?
unfortunately for me, my marks arent the best (too much time on other things, jazz among them) so i have to work hard to find a place that will take me on.
i'm quite good when i apply myself though, but i dont think an accountants relationship with numbers has anything to do with being good at jazz. i think its about the effort you can afford to put into it. while i was studying i had a lot of time, but as i get more involved i won't, this doesnt mean i dont love it any less, i will just be busy being boring (or sober and non musical).
mishaco, it sounds like you are roughly in the same boat, (and an aussie too?), how are you gonna go about getting some work as it seems tough if you dont go through university channels?
sorry, i went off topic as well.
jace, it doesnt really matter about what kind of person you are, its just that if your not a big talker or an introvert you will be suited to this particular environment, it may also make you a quantum mechanics engineer...
i'm not a terribly quiet or introverted person, i can be both obnoxious and noxious , but kind of just fell into accounting, and i dont think its something you should do just on a whim though.
it sounds like you are giving it thought though, which is a good thing, and a someone said before, a big thing is being able to communicate well enough to managers and marketing types which are often fairly outgoing.
thats all, good luck.
jace, it doesnt really matter about what kind of person you are, its just that if your not a big talker or an introvert you will be suited to this particular environment, it may also make you a quantum mechanics engineer...
i'm not a terribly quiet or introverted person, i can be both obnoxious and noxious , but kind of just fell into accounting, and i dont think its something you should do just on a whim though.
it sounds like you are giving it thought though, which is a good thing, and a someone said before, a big thing is being able to communicate well enough to managers and marketing types which are often fairly outgoing.
thats all, good luck.
many of us here are computer programmers.
it's a profession that works pretty well for introverts.
it's a profession that works pretty well for introverts.
and i thought i was the only accountant/musician in the world...
lol
lol
if you're 20, you have ten years before you have to even begin to start thinking about worrying what you want to do.
are you married with children? obviously, that would make a difference, but if you don't have a situation where you are responsible for anyone but yourself, then forget about thinking about a "career" for a long time.
see the world, get a job with the peace corps or something, don't join the army, move away from the place where you grew up (most important). see different things, expose yourself to as much life as you can, and then later when you've made it into your 30's, you won't have a problem figuring out what to do.
in fact, if you expose yourself to as much life as possible, whatever it is you find yourself doing, you'll probably already be doing it. amazing how that stuff happens.
but nothing like that can happen if you lead a sheltered life and take no chances. you have to get out there and put yourself into situations that are difficult, challenging, and in the end, make life worth living.
are you married with children? obviously, that would make a difference, but if you don't have a situation where you are responsible for anyone but yourself, then forget about thinking about a "career" for a long time.
see the world, get a job with the peace corps or something, don't join the army, move away from the place where you grew up (most important). see different things, expose yourself to as much life as you can, and then later when you've made it into your 30's, you won't have a problem figuring out what to do.
in fact, if you expose yourself to as much life as possible, whatever it is you find yourself doing, you'll probably already be doing it. amazing how that stuff happens.
but nothing like that can happen if you lead a sheltered life and take no chances. you have to get out there and put yourself into situations that are difficult, challenging, and in the end, make life worth living.
If I'm not back in 24 hours, call the president.
Scot is available for skype jazz piano lessons (and google hangouts, phone call, etc...)
Use the contact link at the top of the page.
Scot is available for skype jazz piano lessons (and google hangouts, phone call, etc...)
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by Scot Ranney on 02/01/2008, 14:18
what about bookkeeping? is thst similar to accounting except u get piad less.
i agree whole heartedly. no matter where it is.
i am a cpa and also a bit of an introvert. i have always loved to work with numbers. however, i often think how things would have been had i put the same effort into music. i grew up in a musical household, my mother being a piano teacher. i did not fully take advantage of what i had when i was young. sadly i came back to piano much later in life.
accounting isn't always black and white. when working for yourself clients attempt to pressure one in taking more aggessive positions on tax issues and financial statement preparation. but i think it is probably the same in all dealings with the public.
i have a client who is an attorney and very much into numbers like me. as a side line he is a jazz sax player and performer and wishes he could earn enough at that to be a full time musician.
having been in the profession for more than 30 years, i wonder how different my life would have been had i pursued a carear in music. but one should not look backwards.
my advise is to do what you love to do but make sure you have a fall back position just in case.
accounting isn't always black and white. when working for yourself clients attempt to pressure one in taking more aggessive positions on tax issues and financial statement preparation. but i think it is probably the same in all dealings with the public.
i have a client who is an attorney and very much into numbers like me. as a side line he is a jazz sax player and performer and wishes he could earn enough at that to be a full time musician.
having been in the profession for more than 30 years, i wonder how different my life would have been had i pursued a carear in music. but one should not look backwards.
my advise is to do what you love to do but make sure you have a fall back position just in case.
oh, and for what it's worth, kenny g has a degree in accounting as a fall back....seriously!
another similarity is that there are many types of accountants...tax, audit, project, inventory, etc., just like there are many types of piano styles...classical, solo, ragtime, trio, etc. the point being you can focus on one or try your hand and multiple types if you get bored with one.
piano's more fun though.... :-)
another similarity is that there are many types of accountants...tax, audit, project, inventory, etc., just like there are many types of piano styles...classical, solo, ragtime, trio, etc. the point being you can focus on one or try your hand and multiple types if you get bored with one.
piano's more fun though.... :-)
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