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thanks!
i normally wouldn't have the patience to sit through 1 hour and 36 mins of video but that was well worth it, thanks very much, great video and a great player.
kenny werner's great. i saw him 8 years ago in greeley, colorado before i knew who he was.

his basic premise that the ego is only a destructive force in music also applies to all other areas of life.

- steve gadd
i enjoyed this guy.  i think he has reached a place in his career where it all appears effortless.  i don't think he got there by just "letting the fingers drop" though.
yeah, i really really like kenny werner.. but his thoery seems to apply mainly to himself, or someone with his capabilities.  it's pretty obvious.  i mean, practice in taking a problem, introducing the solution (movement, etc) to the conscious mind, and then moving that into the subconscious mind.  so, if most of the stuff is in the subconscious, of course it's effortless.  that's sort of where practice leads to.

of course, the stuff on ego, learning to control your mind as you play, etc is very applicable.
yes, the ego must be contained.  i actually got in an argument with some musicians once, each of us claiming to have the bigger ego.
totally pointless when you view mr. werner's video.
the interesting thing i learned was that feeling like you suck is also your ego.  it can lead you either way and it is always looking to feed itself one way or the other, all the while distracting you from what you are doing at the moment...hmmm....too bad it took me 48 years to discover that...
exactly! like werner said, if you let a bad performance ruin your day (and lord knows, i sure have) there's a serious ego problem there.
yeah, i agree, however, if you don't care about how good or bad you played then surely thats ego problems as well?  i get pretty upset if i play really badly and depending on the situation can feel quite embarrassed, not because i have a big ego but because i care about my playing and because i want to play well.  

where is the balance though?  at what point is not caring a bad ego problem and at what point is getting upset a bad ego problem?!!
the balance is knowing how to let the right brain(creativity) soar, and keep the left brain(analysis) at bay.
correction, that would be in a performance setting, the opposite would be true in a practice setting.
ado, i gotta say that was perhaps one of the best videos i've seen, at least in the top 5, thanks for sharing i've been watching at least parts of it once a day since u put up the link
the "ego" is your small self - the self that is frightened.  if you fear that you are your playing, a bad performance will make you fell bad about yourself.  "ego" does not mean pride.
what kenny is quite simply trying to teach is how to quiet your mind and play from that focused place where the ego simply does not exist.  you can discover and practice being in this place through various forms of meditation -- zen is a really really good practice for this.
great link.
that was intense, it was like watching videodrome. i could watch this all day
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