i need help defining two terms.
what is a run?
what is a pattern?
how does a run differ from a pattern?
niether term is in the harvard dictionary of music.
thanks mike.
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i think a "run" is the mad dash a musician has to make in order to both buy a beer and use the restroom on a break.

a "pattern" is those little lines you make on those deodorizing urinal cakes
ok but seriously,  anyways if you have not learned by now to blurb into the microphone at the end of the set to a waitresss "oh sweety bring me a bud to the john ... i don't have time to piss and go to the bar on my break" rhen you don't deserve the piano yer playin dr.
all runs are based on patterns, but not all patterns can be turned into runs.

runs tend to indicate speed, often a flurry of fast notes.

a pattern can be any form of logical sequence (scalar or chordal, etc.)
i must apologize for my silliness - a product of my silly mood.  i misinterpreted this as a silly thread.

here's how i think of it:

here's a typical oscar pattern:
a f# g a bb c d f# a

string it together and you get a typical oscar run:
a f# g a bb c d f# a f# g a bb c d f# a f# g a bb c d f# a
i think of a pattern as a rhythmic pattern which usually is repeated maybe more than once. and the notes may be the same or different.

a run is a scale or an arpeggio which more than likely would have notes of equal timing.
a pattern has to have a logic behind it. once you know the pattern, you can extend a phrase indefinitely by just continuing the pattern. a simple example is 123, 234, 345, etc...  here is this pattern, applied to  
1. c major scale; cde def efg fga etc
2. c minor pentatonic: cebf ebfg fgbb gbbc
3. c7 arpeggio:  ceg egbb gbbc bbce

a 'run' can be any sequence of notes that is memorable - it is much harder term to pin down, a bit like the word 'lick'. perhaps 'run' implies a linear quality, rather than any old lick?

does it matter, if it sounds good?!
well it matters because i am trying to write a definition for a
exercize book for students.  thanks to all,  i am getting closer.
but it is amazing all the books i have in my house that have the word "pattern" in the title and immediatly use the word run in the opening pages but do not bother to define either term.
when i write for my students i am not that vague i like to define clearly the terms i am using.
what is a run?
a pattern of notes ussually played allegro or allegretto.  
or often a pattern made up of 16h notes
a run is a  
pattern (a logical sequence,scalar or chordal, etc.) ussually played
fast... often 16th notes.


how about that one???  what do you think???
i think the 16th note definination is not a good one, a run can have any rhythm. it depends on the tempo and style what rhythmic pattern you hear. a run can have triplets, 16ths, quintuplets, 16th triplets, groups of 7 or anything else you can imagine.
i think that's the key word, imagine.
a run is a
pattern (a logical sequence,scalar or chordal, etc.) ussually played
fast... often 16th notes but can be triplets, 16ths, quintuplets, 16th triplets, groups of 7 or anything else you can imagine.

ok well how about that then???
oh - now i see what you're doing...

a run could also be a "cadenza" - out of time.  

could "run" just be synonymous with the word phrase?
so maybe  "pattern" is synonymous with motif ?
.
-dr.whack

could you define "lick", please?
noun or verb? :)


i guess whichever one involves a waitress...


:)
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