hi good people, i'm really young in the piano. i don't know how to incorporate other chords apart from minors. however i know how to construct dim7, sus2 and 4, m7s and m7s etc... chords but can't find a way to use them. i never did theory but practice. please help me.
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hi, what exactly do you mean?  are you asking how to improvise over different kinds of chords, or how to build different kinds of chords, etc?

the thing is, you incorporate your chords the same way you figured out how to use your minor chords- play over them a lot.  take a new chord and mess with it for a week, that way you'll have it under your fingers and you'll know what sounds go with it.

give us some more details about your situation and we'll try to help you figure this stuff out!
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perhaps you could start with a particular tune you like and we can go from there
thank you so much for your reply dr. whack.
what i mean is, i don't know how to use many chords apart of minors. example, if i'm playing the i iv v progression- all i'm able to add is the 6th degree minor. take this song as an example: "storm is over" by r kelly, if it's in c i would play starting with c then f and g. what i want is to know how to use 7s, sus, dims, augs and etc... i think you understand me sir.
i think he is asking for examples of chord progressions that use something other than minor chords.

to answer the question some common uses are
dominant chords as v leading back to i
sus chords moving in short intervals i.e. whole steps
dim preceding a chord a half step above or below

i would say find a few tunes you like the harmonies on and try work them out.
you'll be surprised at what you learn even if you can't get them note for note.
thanks fb000, i see you understood what i wish to know but your explanation is quiet advanced for me. would you mind showing me a few basics please...
please take no offense at my reply, but perhaps you need to start with a firmer grounding in theory and harmony. there are websites that are quite readily available and free that will help you accomplish this. the reason i cite this is your response to fb000 being quite advanced. there are many resources available and i am quite confident that you can achieve the requisite knowledge. the most important thing is to never give up, always keep trying. you can accomplish almost anything if you will apply your time to that endeavor.
thanks too wdenissorrell, i've tried different sites but still i'm not growing that's how i ended up here, hoping to get that help.
many songs have you transcribed?  go to youtube and find a piano song you really like, and then learn it note for note from the video.  you will get more out of the music by doing that than you will doing anything else.
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i finally gave that r kelly song a listen.  there's not a lot you can do with that.  i suppose if you were a very advanced composer/arranger, you could completely reharmonize it and change the feel, but i don't think that is what you were asking.

are you able to figure out the chords from this tune by listening?  if not, like scot said, that would be a great place to start.
like scott said transcribing is great and listen all the time. allllll the time.and go outside of your comfort zone musically. listen to music that isn't "cool". i am not knocking r. kelly he is a fine singer but he would be in the mainstream "cool" category. remember this "garbage in garbage out." this applies to alot of things. the food you eat to the people you surround yourself with and the music you listen to. listen to more musically sophisticated music and try to learn and understand it then when you go back to simple pop songs you will be amazed at what you can come up with. again there is nothing wrong with pop or commercial music, but if you dig a little bit you'll be amazed at the music out there. growing up i was ostracized for my musical taste. i was the weird kid listening to coltrane when i was a kid ( thanks to my dad) and all my friends would make fun of me for it. so don't let other people tell you what is good music, not even me.
thanks sid, i'm honestly not into pop. i love jazz... my main problem is how to incorporate different chords. i gave the r kelly song because it's known and simple. if i can ask: how can i use augmented chords? then maybe we can go slowly... one more thing, i can construct these chords(dim7, augs, m7s, m7s and 11s but i can't find a way to use them).
well as people have already said a good thing to do is transcribe or you can do what i did as a kid. you get yourself a copy of the real book you can download it for free from the thepiratebay.org and pick a song like "someday my prince will come" bbm7 to a d7+5 etc... and what you will want to do is listen to the song. i recommend miles' version. listen to the song until you can sing the melody and follow along with the book and listen to how the chords interact with each other. notice the tension they create and how they are resolved. then once you used to how the chord is used in context with other chords you can begin to get an ear for where they want to go. trust your ear. when you play a chord you will notice where it wants to go. when i was younger i did the trial and error method. i would play around until it sounded right to me. there are all sorts of rules you can follow at first then once you have them ingrained you can say fuck the rules and do what you want, when you want. so right now it sounds as if you need to train your ear some more to hear how the chords interact and look at how other musicians have used them. learn how others used them then use them how you want to. this applies to all of the chords not just augmented ones. pick a song you like and dissect it bit by bit. you can do this with other musicians as well not just jazz musicians . you can dissect whoever the beatles use some nice changes and you can see how they used the chords as well. hope this helps
wow! sid thanks... what i'll do now is go through the book. i'll let you know of my progress soon. you are blessed:) thank you very much.
it is not generally considered kosher to post links here (or on any other legitimate websites) to pirate sites which pay no royalties to the copyright owner.

in fact, ljp could be held liable if the link is allowed to stay up.

one would think that in this enlightened age that everyone would know that already.

if you want to share pirated copyrighted materials, you should do so in private messages, not in public forums where you cause problems for those who own those boards.

what about sites like this that supply the chords, but not the actual music?

chord progressions cannot be copyrighted.

sites that offer only chord progressions (and not melodies or bass lines) are not violating copyright (including ralph patts' site).
if you need to know about chord progressions using altered chords, then you could do worse than checking out phil de gregg's jazz piano book where he takes you through many of these. the book covers chord nomenclature, practicing voicings, dominant alterations, upper extension and comping rhythms as well as much more that you speak of.

if you check out avatar's post of 22/8/2005 in the book review section of this site, you will learn more about this book.  phil did teach at university of cincinnati and taught on the aebersold jazz courses where be produced a leaflet about this topic called jazxz piano packet 2004.  i don't know if he's still there. if you search the cincinatti, you may find some of his stuff on the site.  good luck.  kai
ooooops - sorry.  phil de greg book is called jazz keyboard harmony and his bio is at  https://www.phildegreg.com/bio.html />kai
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