hi to all of you !!!

i have got a john coltrane's patterns book on the internet. and i was asking if anyone can give some description of coltrane's improvisation style??  

this will help me a lot while i'm analysing coltranes' patterns.thanks in advance..

chacky
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coltrane often uses chord outlines to blow over changes. this dramatically simplifies the vertical soloing approach.

although he does foray into the higher partials every once in a while, he doesn't do it nearly as frequently as bird did.coltrane has more of a tendency to hang around in the lower triad area of the chord, mixing in 2s, 6s & 7s. things like that.

and then sometimes he just gets crazy and plays stuff that's totally out.

you'll see.
"speak low" is nice (and i think best) when done latin style (samba-ish). check out the cal tjader version.

carlos santana's "europa" (which has exactly the same changes as the first section of "autumn leaves") might not be in the real book but i would seriously consider that.

on my lead sheet of the tune "st. thomas" it says that the rhythmic style should be "medium swinging latin". whether or not you play it that way, "st. thomas" is just a really fun tune.

albetan's probably got a million great ideas. hopefully he'll give a response in this thread.
thanks a lot 7

erick
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hi to all of you !!!

i have got a john coltrane's patterns book on the internet. and i was asking if anyone can give some description of coltrane's improvisation style??  

this will help me a lot while i'm analysing coltranes' patterns.thanks in advance..

chacky
thanks again.  
7 one of the guys (clarinet) has been dying to get us to include speak low, he'll be delighted. we already 'do' autumn leave, of course - what a good idea.  i didn't know st. thomas could be played in that way, and it will be good for us - we're not too good with timing, yet.
albetan. i have a lot to catch up with in your room. i would love to get hold of the latin real book but the trouble is that not all the guys can afford to buy another book in their key.   however, since we seem to all enjoy latin, we will all get it eventually. kai
actually in the book there are a lot of pieces i never even play, at least currently. i find it more for the serious latin-minded, & i simply love latin piano to pieces, ssooooo refreshing.
let's go to havana!
sand in my choose
solart - we americans aren't permitted to go to havana :-(
and i don't have the cash, scheiße.
from the real book 1 (the sher one ?) i would recommend this masquerade, wave, blue bossa (everybody should know that), no me esqueca (recorda me), desifanado and one we do called a little tear.
of course if you mean the 'real' real book then disregard the above.
tks again - i mean the one from sher. i'm familiar with three of those - that's a help.
speaking of jobim, everybody plays "ipanema" and "one note samba", so much so that i'm sick of hearing them.

i personally think that "agua de beber" is one of jobim's very finest and lends itself well to a santana-esque treatment.

"corcovado" is of course the ultimate seduction song. while it doesn't have a lot of flash-bang, it sure is pretty and romantic.
"dindi" (pronounced jinji) by jobim is nice. easy latin feel, with just a few changes. it's availabe in real book 2 or new real book 1. it's also featured in a dvd by jane monheit. "softly as in a morning sunrise" also make a nice latin tune when played that way.
i'd forgotten about dindi. no more blues is also good but is a very long tune. watch what happens can be good as a bossa nova.
"the lamp is low" based on ravel's "pavane" in the volume 3 new real book is very nice to do in a latin style. anyone play it?
a really nice latin tune (and not very well known) is ceora (lee morgan).  i also love playing here's that rainy day latin style sticking in a i7/vi7b5/ii7b5/v#5#9 turn around in front of it and between every solo.
larry
larry - i like the idea of here's that rainy day, too.  tks.
ceora and here's that rainy day are excellent latin charts.  one bossa i've been playing by jobim that's quite nice is triste.  it's in the real book, and it's quite sweet.   the changes are pretty much based on bflat, and it's not hard.  go check it out.
also, i don't think it's in the real book, but you can find it anywhere...

softly as a morning sunrise can be played in a latin style that's pretty awesome.  at the bridge, you switch to swing, but come back to latin for the head.  i'm not sure what kind of latin it is, but i'm pretty sure you can play it as a samba.

another awesome chart that goes from latin to swing to latin, is on green dolphin street.  try those too!
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