books about timing, technique and mental practise
hello,
i´m doing a thesis about how to aquiring good pianotechnique and what is happening in the brain during practise. rythmical timing and precision is an other important subject. does anyone know about any books about these things?
i´m doing a thesis about how to aquiring good pianotechnique and what is happening in the brain during practise. rythmical timing and precision is an other important subject. does anyone know about any books about these things?
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that is a huge spectrum of topics. might i suggest you narrow it down a bit. piano techniqqe is a discipoline by itself that some folks dedicate entire lifes to. so is the neuroscience of music. the rythm again is a huge seperate topic. does anyone know any books about these??? cmon.... where to start? it is almost like asking does anyone know of any books about music?
well, do you know any books?
yes, could you narrow down what you are looking for.
yes, a book that defines what a good piano technique is.
another could be how to achieve good tecnique.
i´m also interested in the neuroscientific part of the motorical learning in piano. what happens in the brain when practising technical things.
another could be how to achieve good tecnique.
i´m also interested in the neuroscientific part of the motorical learning in piano. what happens in the brain when practising technical things.
i recently bought ''improve your piano playing be john meffen ''and its all about technique,if that helps
mcgill university in toronto canada is the current day leader in neurolodical studies involvolving music. daniel j. levitin, a neuroscientist on the faculty there has the best book out on the topic called: "this is your brain on music : the science of a human obsession" published in 2007 by penguin. other than that i might try internet searches based around mcgill and their music department to see if anything is available on your topic on line. it is a relatively new sophisticated topic. new in the sense that you can find exhaustive literature written in the time of bach for example on fingerings and technique that is still revered and followed as gospel today. but this field of the study of the neurology of music certainly did not exist in bachs time or at least was not written about extensively as it is begining to be now with men of doctorates dedecated to its study.
look also at related work on the brain and skills more generally - for example, there is sure to be detailed studies on the operation of the brain in acquiring sport skills, and other sophisticated motor skills. on the more abstract aspects of music, there may be something to be said about the analogy between e.g, maths and music - both are external theories which make sense of the perception of the physical world. by external, i mean that you conceptualise the mathematical relations between physical object or sounds according to music theory and maths. you do this perceptually, as well as intellectually, but you do it according to existing "external" concept that are learned.
there is a vast literature on consciousness / cognitive science which deals with some of these issues (i did a phd on this a long time ago).
there is a vast literature on consciousness / cognitive science which deals with some of these issues (i did a phd on this a long time ago).
i have this link for anyone interested in 'haptic memory' vis a vis piano technique.
https://www.abbywhiteside.org/home.htm
it is not new, by any means, but i bought and read this kiwi lady author's book and it was very comprehensive on the topic. it is abby whiteside and this is her web site. hope this helps.
kai
https://www.abbywhiteside.org/home.htm
it is not new, by any means, but i bought and read this kiwi lady author's book and it was very comprehensive on the topic. it is abby whiteside and this is her web site. hope this helps.
kai
i don't know if this is off topic, but it has been my experience that girls naved abby are especially good at oral.
thanks for the link kai - i ordered the "mastering the chopin etudes" book from the library. i want to compare it to "hacking the chopin etudes" by dr. whack
mike, i don't think that is completely off topic. again, this is about the developing of a technical skill, and one's name is plausibly a factor in socialization and the way in which one conceptualizes the world. i would be willing to volunteer for a study to develop your theory, if you are able to gather together an appropriate set of test subjects named abby.
i did not realize both of her books are combined in a newer book called:
"abby whiteside on piano playing" - i should have ordered that one.
anyway, i will pick it up tomorrow:)
"abby whiteside on piano playing" - i should have ordered that one.
anyway, i will pick it up tomorrow:)
“abby whiteside on piano playing” is the book i read. when i (studying psychology at the time) looked into haptic memory, there was not the literature about that there is today. i think the topic took off with the interest in cognitive psychology, links between psychology/math/music and things have sure moved on. i did find it a bit heavy: nevertheless, it remains a comprehensive book. there didn’t seem to be much response in the post when i thought of this book again.
the book has a permanent home with a classical concert pianist/teacher friend who insists on referring to the study as kinaesthetics. now there is much more (validated by research) knowledge, as well as a wealth of opinion - perhaps emanating from online teaching methods and the study of differing learning styles”.
anyway i would recommend getting it from the library – even though it is quite reasonable on amazon (you can peep inside the book). there may be something more suitable for you out there now if you are going to buy a book. i simply don’t know. if you are ‘working on this study topic it might prove a useful reference book – it does to my classical teacher friend. anyway ‘good luck’ with it.
mike - i don’t think i let you know how valuable your earlier recommendation of the dave frank, joy of improv books were to me – belated thanks.
the book has a permanent home with a classical concert pianist/teacher friend who insists on referring to the study as kinaesthetics. now there is much more (validated by research) knowledge, as well as a wealth of opinion - perhaps emanating from online teaching methods and the study of differing learning styles”.
anyway i would recommend getting it from the library – even though it is quite reasonable on amazon (you can peep inside the book). there may be something more suitable for you out there now if you are going to buy a book. i simply don’t know. if you are ‘working on this study topic it might prove a useful reference book – it does to my classical teacher friend. anyway ‘good luck’ with it.
mike - i don’t think i let you know how valuable your earlier recommendation of the dave frank, joy of improv books were to me – belated thanks.
oh you are very welcome kai. my next bit of advice is that if presented with the chance to become friendly with a girl named abby, proceed young man.
hi mike and kai, como esta amigos?
dave frank
dave frank
good except i decided to hear what it would sound like to crash into another car at 50 mph last sunday. i can not really use the sound. the ryhthm started and ended too soon as well. if anyone wondered fractured ribs do not help your piano technique in any measurable way. what i have been enjoying is putting the lines i wrote while studying with you to hip hop and funk beats. i have posted some things on my my space page i think if you want to check them out. one thing i like that i wrote with you is i put a line written over "all of me" called "black jelly bean" to a latin beat.
sorry to hear about the car accident mike, you're ok?
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hi mike,
hope your doing okay!! after 35 yrs of playing as my prof, i broke my right arm last year and am now just getting things back in place for playing. it gave me a whole new perspective and has entirely changed my playing.for any musician i actually would recomend some type of accident that gives you an injury which directly affects your playing if you really want direct personel growth !!
best regards
paul
i would be interested in a link to your my space page
hope your doing okay!! after 35 yrs of playing as my prof, i broke my right arm last year and am now just getting things back in place for playing. it gave me a whole new perspective and has entirely changed my playing.for any musician i actually would recomend some type of accident that gives you an injury which directly affects your playing if you really want direct personel growth !!
best regards
paul
i would be interested in a link to your my space page
hi mike,
hope your doing okay!! after 35 yrs of playing as my prof, i broke my right arm last year and am now just getting things back in place for playing. it gave me a whole new perspective and has entirely changed my playing.for any musician, i actually would recomend some type of accident that gives you an injury which directly affects your playing if you really want direct personel growth !!
best regards
paul
i would be interested in a link to your my space page
hope your doing okay!! after 35 yrs of playing as my prof, i broke my right arm last year and am now just getting things back in place for playing. it gave me a whole new perspective and has entirely changed my playing.for any musician, i actually would recomend some type of accident that gives you an injury which directly affects your playing if you really want direct personel growth !!
best regards
paul
i would be interested in a link to your my space page
thanks for the concern. i am ok. i have fractured ribs which are a nasty inconvience more than anything else. they just take a little time to heal. there is a link to my myspace page on my main web page which is michaelcritch.com or if you are already a myspacer a search for
the mike critch group would work i think.
the mike critch group would work i think.
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